Did Hebron Disappear?

aish.com ^ | June 30, 2009 / 8 Tammuz 5769 | by Rabbi Leibel Reznick

[Fred Nerks]

And, Hebron is a perfect case in point. Before the finding of concrete evidence, Hebron was flaunted as contrary to the Biblical narrative of an Israelite conquest of Canaan. With the discovery of artifacts in recent years, Hebron now boasts of incontrovertible evidence of the Israelite conquest. But we mustn't hold our collective breath waiting for the anti-Biblicists to admit their mistake. In the words of Jonathan Swift, "There's none so blind as they that won't see."23

[donmeaker]

It is well known that the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

[Sursum Corda]

As to the title of this piece, I respond: “NO.”

what tortured ideological foolishness.

Sursum Corda

[mountainlion]

Damascus will disappear maybe soon!!

[muawiyah]

When it comes to cities and towns, the best sites persist through thousands of years.

The area where our family found a number of Clovis points was on the East Side of what is now Indianapolis on a small rise that overlooked what was a glacial pothole.

It was probably used as a main campsite circa 14,000 BC when the two mile high glacial mass 10 miles North began melting.

This was a salient in the mass so animals would come there to eat the plentiful grass. Men would hunt them and dine well.

Then the comet came and destroyed that way of life but the Early Woodland culture came to that exact same place ~ I found some points they left. Then later settlements were made and they left their points.

Best I could ever tell the site was inhabited continuously for 2000 years before the comet, and a good 10,000 years after the comet. Today it's just another part of the East Side of Indianapolis, a city that's now nearly 2 centuries old.

Hebron still exists and yet it was an exceptionally early human settlement in that area. Obiously it's a good place for a camp. There'll be something there ten thousand years from now.

[RegulatorCountry]

What led the Israelites spies to think that the land was inhabited by giants? Archaeology can supply the answer.

The structures and even the quarried stone were quite outsized, but the conclusion reached is that this was perceived as being so, by Hebrew advance scouts or spies, in order to just protect Hebron from giants?

A literal reading leads to a very different conclusion.

Looking into extra-Biblical texts, texts that are very controversial, yes, but confirmed as authentic in many instances via the so-called Dead Sea Scrolls from the caves at Qumran, texts such as the books of Jasher, Jubilees and Enoch, indicate that these people were well known, renowned even, and in many instances known by name, as children of Anakim, descendants of Anak. Giants. Literally.

If none of this rings a bell, it goes back to that wild, fallen angels mating with the daughters of men thing, that makes many people so very uncomfortable.

And, Hebron was known as one of their great cities. I'd be tempted to speculate that there's a deliberate gap in knowledge of such a place, because no one wants to be looked upon as crazy, in a field that is so rife with political, scientific and religious undertones, all competing and usually at cross purposes.

So, if there is truth to those ancient texts, one of which, Enoch, is referenced several times in the Bible, there very likely will be some crazy-seeming archaological finds in Hebron. I thought this might add a little life to your thread. Have at it.

[MissDairyGoodnessVT]

bump for l8r

[Fred Nerks]

I thought this might add a little life to your thread. Have at it.

very much appreciated, thanks for your input.

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[agrace]

Absolutely agreed. I feel pretty strongly that canonical scripture (Gen 6, Exodus, Deut 3, 1 Samuel, Jude, 2 Peter) supports the more detailed accounts in books such as Enoch. If one dares treat the text as it is meant to be read, that is. In fact, in antiquity the stories were taken as such by orthodox Jewry and early Christianity; it was only later that they were allegorized.

[null and void]

Damascus will disappear maybe soon!!

Syria-sleey?

[ConservativeMan55]

bttt

[RegulatorCountry]

I came at the realization from two directions. For one, I was raised in a casually Protestant home, with not a very high priority placed upon church attendance, and came to faith in Christ in adulthood as a result of personal experiences and seeking answers, which I’ve found reinforces a literal reading of the Bible.

Before then, though, I was struck by scientific discoveries pertaining to genetic engineering, with one noted, potential side effect of genetic engineering being giantism. That jogged my memory a little, got me interested in reading up on the subject, and so here we are, discussing the matter.

[ApplegateRanch]

Lest you wonder how a scientist can recant the significance of his own discovery, it is important to understand that archaeology is not the exact science that laymen assume it to be. ... it can be subject to political, social and religious pressures and prejudices from outside and from within academic circles.

cf: NASA/Hanson; EPA's, suppressed "global warming" study that refuted warming....

[ApplegateRanch]

If none of this rings a bell, it goes back to that wild, fallen angels mating with the daughters of men thing, that makes many people so very uncomfortable.

What goes around, comes around:

Matt 24:37

37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
KJV

[RegulatorCountry]

I’ve begun to have the sneaking suspicion that they’ll present themselves as benevolent space aliens from another galaxy this time around, come to save us from ourselves.

[ApplegateRanch]

Somehow, that has been my suspicion, too.

On a (somewhat) related note: The Monitors; Unfortunately, not available on tape or DVD.

[wildbill]

Didn’t the peace-loving Palestinians recently vandalize the Cave of the Patriarchs or the tombs there?

This was in direct opposition to centuries of acknowleging that Abraham, the father of Ismael was buried there and honoring the site.

[Fred Nerks]

...ancient Jewish graves in Hebron were burned and vandalized (as were the tombs of Joseph and Joshua in Samaria recently). Remember that during the 19 years of Jordanian control over the Old City of Jerusalem 58 synagogues were destroyed, or used as urinals and stables. The ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mt. of Olives was desecrated. Jewish tombstones were used for latrines and to pave roads. Clearly, the Arabs have shown they hate the living Jews so much they even attack our dead.

The holiness of Hebron for the Jews dates from Abraham’s purchase of the Cave of the Machpelah to bury Sarah. The mosque of Ibrahim was built over the Tomb of the Jewish Patriarchs to legitimize the absurd Moslem claim that Abraham was always a Moslem. Today Mustapha Natshe, Hebron’s Arab mayor vows that Jews won’t be allowed to pray in the Cave of the Machpelah because it’s a Moslem mosque...

http://www.freeman.org/m_online/dec96/winston.htm

[wildbill]

The Palistinians claim that the Jews have no history in the Holy Land, but one of the strangest things I’ve ever read is a secttion of Mark Twain’s book Innocents Abroad, written in 1869, where he remarks that the whole country is almost without any population of either religion.