Posted on 06/14/2009 11:40:12 AM PDT by JoeProBono
It is time once again for the annual Roswell UFO Festival, July 2-5. This is, in my opinion, the top UFO-related event in the world, because the Roswell incident of 1947 has proven to be definitive in validating the UFO phenomenon.
Skeptics refuse to accept this, and even believers don't seem to realize just what it is about the Roswell story that proves UFOs are real. The debate just goes on and on, on radio talk shows mostly, although the solution has been right out in the open since the public was first informed, back on July 8, 1947.
The continuing performances of dedicated skeptics deriding UFOs is a monstrous fraud upon the public, which the public has been witless enough to let pass, because it has had little incentive and therefore little abiding interest in focusing upon the certain but supremely awkward truth.
The facts that prove the reality of the UFO crash near Roswell are these (and they are deceptively simple, so listen closely): 1) The military itself reported the crash to the world media as genuine,
and 2) The day after the initial public release of the story, higher military authority changed that story, claiming that the wreckage recovered was in fact a weather balloon array, mistaken for alien material by the Roswell air field personnel.
Why do these facts prove the UFO? Because both the intelligence officer and commanding officer of the Roswell military post examined the wreckage and confirmed its alien nature. (I won't dwell on the details here. You can best get them on roswellufomuseum.com and other sites dedicated to the event.)
These officers, with the added concurrence of the post's information officer, put out to the world the original story that they had retrieved a bonafide UFO of non-man-made materials.
These were the top officers of a wartime bomber group, one of the most serious occupations in the world. (If you haven't been in the military and don't know just how serious it was and is, in and out of war, check out the movie "Twelve O'Clock High", made in 1949 about a wartime bomber group.)
They would not begin to think of fooling around with such a story, they would have to have been insane to risk both their own and, even worse, the military's reputations. They were entirely professional and competent. They would not have identified the craft as alien without overwhelming evidence.
They were sincere in their identification and honest and quick in sending out the story to the world. These career military officers were never impugned in their character, honesty or on-going competence in their duties.
Military higher-ups did, however, impugn their basic competence to recognize military hardware, when they issued pictures of the intelligence officer, Jesse Marcel, with supposed crash material, in which that material was obviously flimsy tin foil attached to thin wooden sticks - a childish fake, perpetrated upon an all-too-trusting public more than ready to laugh rather than look closely, in the years following a long and desperate war.
The Roswell officers went along with this deception, under orders, but the issuing of this obviously flimsy story in fact proved the reality of the UFO, because it is simply inconceivable that a competent army intelligence officer, of a wartime bomber group (post-World War II, in 1947, but into the Cold War by then), would not see what any teenage model builder could see was faked "crash" material......
Kal Korff’s book is as you say very good.
I read it and Dr. Jesse Marcel Jr.’s book, to get two sides of the story.
Korff’s book, and Kent Jeffrey’s web article ( http://www.roswellfiles.com/storytellers/KentJeffrey1.htm )
present overwhelming evidence that what crashed near Roswell was a Mogul balloon.
Dr Marcel is a sincere man, and a patriot who has served this nation long and well. But I believe that his perceptions as a ten year ten month old boy in July 1947 were mistaken. The phenomenon of subjective perception is sometimes called “The Rashomon effect”, after the famous Japanese film.
If the little green men were technologically advanced enough to get here, I would think that they’d be technologically advanced enough not to crash. But that’s just me.
ENTIRELY CORRECT.
GOOD ANALYSIS.
GOOD FACTS.
GOOD LOGIC.
THANKS.
UFO “A” PING LIST PING.
Thanks for your affirmation of the truth of the story.
The German angle has certainly plenty of mystery and unknowns left to it.
The stuff about the Germans and Antarctica that you can find on the net . . . incredible. Who knows what’s true.
I think your assumptions are far from . . . fool proof.
What a farce as Stanton Friedman has handily demonstrated.
The Mogul dummies were not used AT ALL until 1953—well AFTER Rosewell.
1947, 1948, 1949, 1950, 1951, 1952 . . .
ding ding ding, 1953 . . . comes AFTER 1947—well after.
I have no doubt there is life elsewhere in this galaxy; it never visited New Mexico however.
I’m wiht you . The “proof “ given here is NOT proof at all.
That’s still one of your best image posts.
LOL.
Unmitigated nonsense.
They are clueless.
And it’s mystifying how they could supposedly research such a book and still end up so clueless.
1953 is WELL after 1947 . . . even for clueless folks.
“They are clueless.”
Perhaps you need to look in a mirror before insulting anyone else.
You keep insisting that Jesse Marcel Jr was 11 years old in July 1947 ( as Jesse himself apparently once mis-spoke ), and you haven’t even bothered to check on Jesse’s birth-date, as I have. He was 10.
I also took the time to read multiple books and articles on Roswell, and came to what for me is a very definite conclusion: it was not extraterrestrial debris. I am no longer in doubt as I once was. I am grateful to Jesse Marcel Jr, with whom I respectfully disagree, for causing me to educate myself on this subject.
I don’t trust any so-called “facts” you assert, because your many uncalled-for ad-hominem attacks imply to me a deep emotional need to believe that aliens crashed at Roswell; which unfortunately reminds me most of Al Gore defending global warming. A safe rule is a person making personal insults is usually trying to compensate for a lack of facts.
There is not the slightest credible evidence that alien life forms were ever found at Roswell, so whether or not Mogul dummies were in use in 1947 seems quite irrelevant.
Neither Jesse Marcel Jr, nor his father, who was a good military intelligence officer, ever claimed to have seen any alien life form. There’s no doubt the Top Secret Mogul balloon was in use in 1947, and in my opinion it is very clear one of them crashed near Roswell, NM, and was honestly misperceived by the Marcels, father and son.
Personally I would actually much prefer that aliens did crash at Roswell, but my reason strongly tells me otherwise.
Cheers.
Perhaps one of you has a comment re the age and birth date as well as the assertions that Jesse Marcel Jr mistook balloon material for an Extraterrestrial craft material.
Something happened, that is for certain. That museum is a great place too, but I thought that the street lights with the eyeballs were the funniest thing in Roswell. I love the area and would have been there permanently had family obligations in Charlotte kept me from taking a full time job.
LMAO! Another fargin moron writer still thinks UFO stuff is real! What a dingletard.
Excellent! That is about the best descrition I've seen yet for all this UFO garbage.
2) The day after the initial public release of the story, higher military authority changed that story, claiming that the wreckage recovered was in fact a weather balloon array, mistaken for alien material by the Roswell air field personnel.
Sorry Joe you gottta come up with more than that before I'll consider it more than comedy. SHOW ME DA WRECKAGE. Then I'll proclaim that you were right and I was wrong.
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