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To: BroJoeK; lentulusgracchus
From its founding, the Republican Party was the party of anti-slavery.

Michigan 6 July 1854: the "republican" party was against the EXTENSION of slavery (e.g., in favour of a lily white west). The 1856 platform called for, 'who are opposed ... to the extension of slavery into free territory.'

FYI, the Supreme Court ruled 7-2 that was unconstitutional.

So our Founders never intended to let everyone just "do their own thing.".

Wrong. The framers specifically rejected motions that would have allowed the federal government the power to "prevent" secession, one motion made by Madison was defeated by a vote of 9-2. Secession is not rebellion.

993 posted on 06/29/2009 8:53:18 PM PDT by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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To: 4CJ
Secession is not rebellion.

Amen, brother. When will our desperately floundering interlocutors finally accept therapy on their denial?

Of course, so much of their false pride is bound up in their triumphalist lore, handed down from ...... hmp. Who's it handed down from? Thad Stevens? Stanton? Stanton rifled Booth's diary. That sounds like the beginnings of legend-building and the Memory Hole right there.

994 posted on 06/29/2009 10:18:30 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: 4CJ
e.g., in favour of a lily white west

And the South wanted blacks in the west if, and only if, they were someone's property. Oh so much better. </sarcasm>

FYI, the Supreme Court ruled 7-2 that was nconstitutional.

Can you say 'obiter dictum'?

The framers specifically rejected motions that would have allowed the federal government the power to "prevent" secession, one motion made by Madison was defeated by a vote of 9-2. Secession is not rebellion.

It is when it's illegal. And the Constitution does give Congress the power to suppress rebellion.

998 posted on 06/30/2009 4:05:33 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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