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To: Non-Sequitur
Another of your misrepresentations....>>> Starting a war with the U.S.

Absolute and utter nonsense. The people of the city and the duly elected and appointed members of the Confederacy were protecting the harbor from and invasion by rendering Ft. Sumter unnecessary to the Union.

Alexander H. Stephens: “it is not he who strikes the first blow, or fires the first gun that inaugurates or begins the conflict." Rather, the true aggressor is "the first who renders force necessary."

896 posted on 06/28/2009 7:32:47 AM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: PeaRidge

PeaRidge, you may be familiar with NS, but in case you aren’t I’d like to save you time. She has zero interest in discussing facts or anything of substance. She is quite simply and idiot.


898 posted on 06/28/2009 7:36:29 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: PeaRidge
Alexander H. Stephens: “it is not he who strikes the first blow, or fires the first gun that inaugurates or begins the conflict." Rather, the true aggressor is "the first who renders force necessary."
Isn't that like saying that a woman that says no to a rapist has it coming? Or that peaceful protesters that fails to follow police orders deserves to have their heads bashed in because they render force necessary?
900 posted on 06/28/2009 7:42:03 AM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: PeaRidge
Absolute and utter nonsense. The people of the city and the duly elected and appointed members of the Confederacy were protecting the harbor from and invasion by rendering Ft. Sumter unnecessary to the Union.

Fort Sumter was not theirs to render unnecessary. And first trying to starve the garrison out and then bombarding it into surrender is an act of war by any definition of the term. So yes, it was Davis who started the war and Davis who lost it.

Alexander H. Stephens: “it is not he who strikes the first blow, or fires the first gun that inaugurates or begins the conflict." Rather, the true aggressor is "the first who renders force necessary."

Was it necessary? Robert Toombs: "Firing on that fort will inagurate a civil war greater than any the world has yet seen...At this time it is suicide, murder, and will lose us every friend in the North...You will wantonly strike a hornet's nest which extends from mountains to ocean, and legions now quiet will swarm out and sting us to death. It is unnecessary; it put us in the wrong; it is fatal."

904 posted on 06/28/2009 8:20:55 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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