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To: Davy Buck

I say that since academic/popular consensus is firmly on Lincoln’s side, and Lincoln has been set in stone as a national hero, let the Southern apologists have their fun. They’ve got some points. Lincoln had his dark side. If people like DiLorenzo stretch the truth, not many will listen. His ilk have that whole slavery stigma to overcome, which is a losing prospect.


8 posted on 06/09/2009 9:36:56 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane

Lincoln really didn’t care about slavery one way or the other - he stated so - until he realized he could use it for political gain. He supported the original 13th amendment - The Corwin amendment. Read it.


11 posted on 06/09/2009 9:47:11 AM PDT by Davy Buck
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To: Tublecane
His ilk have that whole slavery stigma to overcome, which is a losing prospect.

The US had legalized slavery for over 200 years, north and south. Lincoln advocated an amendment that would have made slavery permanent and irrevocable. Almost 80% of the changes made by the Confederate Constitution were for less taxes, less big government, and the elimination of pork and government subsidies.

25 posted on 06/09/2009 8:57:15 PM PDT by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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To: Tublecane
sadly, you are correct. lincoln's reputation (due to the hero worship of LEFTIST academia) is that of a saint.

the TRUTH is however that he was a "clay-footed, plaster saint", who was ANYTHING but decent/moral/honest. PLUS he was by the standards of ANY era, a stone racist & anti-semite.

in point of fact, he was about the same variety of POTUS as "wee willie klintoon" was. EITHER would say and/or do anything (no matter how immoral/dishonest) to GET AHEAD. ANYTHING!

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59 posted on 06/12/2009 2:22:14 PM PDT by stand watie (Thus saith the Lord of Hosts, LET MY PEOPLE GO.)
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To: Tublecane
I have two questions to ask anyone who thinks the war between the states was about slavery:

1.)What year did the war start?

2.)A:When was the emancipation proclamation issued B:and for what states?

If you answer the second question with a date after the war started, and answered part B only the states that seceded from the Union, then you have to ask yourself: How could this war have started over slavery if slavery was still legal when the states seceded and the northern slave states were allowed to keep their slaves?

I realize that you will spin your answers and try to justify Mr. Lincoln but in reality, he was a tyrant and the north were oppressors, pure and simple.

139 posted on 06/13/2009 11:18:02 AM PDT by calex59
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