Posted on 06/09/2009 8:47:35 AM PDT by Davy Buck
Fairy tale.
On your final question, I'd say the issue of succession was settled in the Civil War, along with slavery.
Don't bank on it.
But you're the one who has constantly cited Blackerby as the irrefutable expert, as the researcher without peer on this subject. You've gone on and on about how the 1860 census is completely worthless, how nobody takes it seriously, how the DAR won't accept it, etc, but here's Blackerby, the foremost expert on the subject of blacks in the confederate forces, putting down that number without comment. Makes you wonder about the rest of his scholarship, don't you think?
Utter nonsense back to you. Here is the census data showing marriages.
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/government/census/census_1850.html
Where does that say it includes slave marriages?
Why would you think that they were excluded from the census?
You think that was caused by “Jim Crow” laws? You are becoming a jerk.
Because legally they did not exist. Marriage between slaves was not recognized by law because slaves were not people. They were property.
You think that was caused by Jim Crow laws? You are becoming a jerk.
Even a jerk would know that "Jim Crow" laws were post rebellion, once your Black Codes had been cancelled.
Bull. Average wait is two to three weeks, a fact that anyone can look up instead of taking your unsubstantiated word. Of course, assuming that you're still in Northern Virginia, you could just go to the Fairfax County Library. They have a copy. In fact a number of libraries around that area seem to have copies. Use worldcat.org to find them.
For the record, it's been 84 days.
Of course the marriages existed, and they were documented where I said. Check the 1850 census again. You will find that the census taker asked if marriages had occurred. You are simply wrong.
fyi, i seriously doubt that anyone else (with the possible exception of a FEW lunatics, BIGOTS & south-HATERS) believes you either, especially after you admitted that you had been BANNED FOREVER under another "alias" & then RETURNED with a "new alias", but with the same old DUMB questions/opinions/biases. then, when you realized that you would be banned AGAIN, you said that you LIED to me.(that was the END of ANYONE of FR believing you on ANY subject.)
fyi, your REPUTATION is firmly fixed as that of a SERIAL LIAR.
free dixie,sw
I believe you are the one who is wrong. How could a marriage be registered in the census when it did not legally exist? Why would slaves be surveyed in the census in the first place when they were not considered people?
Here is the 1850 census form. As you can see it was filled in by free inhabitants of a given locality and not by slaves.
i believe, if Blackerby was living/writing the same book today, that he would use a MUCH larger figure for FREE Blacks in antebellum dixie.
my guess (and that is what it is: a guess) is that there was about 1/2 million or more "free persons of colour", especially given the large size of families in the 19th Century.= ONE married couple from Smith County, TX (near where our family farm is) had 13 sons & 11 daughters in 20 years, including FOUR sets of twins.- NOT a record my any means in those days.
free dixie,sw
Complete nonsense.
always remember that N-S is a PROPAGANDIST first & foremost & that LYING is his trade.UNFORTUNAYELY, he is GOOD at it.
free dixie,sw
aren’t you getting tired of LOOKING STUPID every time you “re-tell” the SAME dumb lies???
So basically you're saying that Blackerby is a sloppy historian whose numbers can't be relied on. Good to know.
I don't suppose you can cite a single verifiable historian who supports your claims about there being a much larger number of free blacks in the south than Blackerby claims, can you?
By the way, do you know who Maryelissa Tyrona Brown-Bollin is?
Wasn’t she a singer with The James Gang?
Time travel? The fall 1865 elections returned many confederates and Southerners to political office - including former Whigs and Unionists - even Alexander Stephens was elected to the Senate. Those men PASSED the 13th ending slavery.
I love math! But unfortunately, you can't even get 15 states to vote as a block then or today. But you can get the Northeast to legalize homosexual marriages, and force them on the rest of the republic.
Utter BS. Marriages were sanctioned by their masters, with Justices of the Peace performing the ceremonies. There are several cases recognizing their legal status, and several wills and trusts ajudicated after the war upheld the validity of the marriages.
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