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To: Quix

Hey, I’m all about finding out the truth. But I think your approach to it here is superficial at best.

You posted a laundry list of people who refer to the “new world order” without the least conception of what those people actually meant when they said it. How is a socialist’s idea of a “new world order” the same as a Christian’s or a Pontiff’s? A pope’s new order is one without Communism, and a Communist’s new order is one without the pope. And yet to you it’s all one huge conspiracy that—somehow—everybody’s gonna magically fall in line.

I’m glad you studied all this for so long. Now I’m asking you to take the evidence out of your head and put it on the table. What *specifically* makes you so sure that the Vatican will fold like a cheap camera to the civil powers when it has made a veritable pastime of not doing so in...oh....1789, 1848, 1917, 1939, etc. etc.


74 posted on 05/23/2009 9:53:36 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Claud

1. I’m not so sure the WWII record for the Vatican is as spotless as you imply.

2. The essential fact of the NWO and the perceived need for it was clear enough in the Pope’s 1967 statement. That’s far tooooooo much allegiance asserted in the direction of the satanic world government for my comfort by a long shot.

3. I will consent to noting one additional collection of puzzle pieces. There are others that I will not bother to dredge up and are certainly not on the tip of my brain or tongue or fingers.

4. The collection of puzzle pieces I speak of is 4-7 assertions at different points in the last 1-3 years by Vatican astronomers etc. etc. etc. including official Vatican published statements in Vatican publications . . . essentially all asserting that

(A) ET’s are real
(B) They are good guys and either never needed a Savior or are also covered by Christ’s blood automatically and should be considered our spiritual brothers.

(B) is a pack of lies from hell. All such dinking around with earth currently and in league with the globalist oligarchy are diligent toward helping set up and manage the satanic tyrannical world government.

CRITTERS IN LEAGUE WITH SATAN—whether fallen angels or no—are NOT ON GOD’S SIDE.

St Paul rightly asserted that if an angel from Heaven came asserting any other gospel, consider him accursed.

The Vatican is not cursing such critters but is instead repeatedly preparing the way for the Vatican faithful to fall in line in support of the critters and their NWO human elite ruling buddies.

Is that clear enough?

No. I won’t dig up the sources. They are on some of the UFO threads.


85 posted on 05/23/2009 10:08:11 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Claud

Being a Catholic, I can say that i have seen a clear struggle between good and evil in my church and the evil in the church leap frogged in the 60’s. Pope John wacked it but, as we have seen most recently in this election and at Notre Dame, the internal struggle for the soul of the church is quite active. I can see the dark side winning or dominating at some point with the appointment of the wrong Pope.

Every Christian sect has the same internal struggle but the Catholic church is the oldest, biggest and richest. This is not an anti-Catholic nor an anti-Christian statement; it just is the way it is and the way it has always been. Today evil has “progressed” in Christianity worse than it has ever been.


398 posted on 05/23/2009 11:16:19 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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