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To: Sudetenland; Quix; sport
Your kind of false prophets of doom and gloom have been spouting this nonsense all of my life and for all of the 2000+ years since Christ was born...and probably since Ogg first began painting on walls. One of these days the odds will catch up with your lot. Who knows maybe this is the time, afterall the Mayans predict the end of the world by 2012.

Me, I plan on living a good long paranoia free life secure in the knowledge that things between God and I are and have been for a long time "right."

You claim to be right with God. There is only one God, Jehovah, and his word the Bible says in 2 Peter 3: 3First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4They will say, "Where is this 'coming' he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation."

Pretty much sums up EXACTLY what you just said. Now you can argue with Quix, but you can't argue against the word of God. If you DO argue against the word, your not "right" with God.

Christ HIMSELF said in Matthew 24: 37 "As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.

Again, pretty much sums up what you said.

Now if your versed in the Bible, you might argue with Matthew 24: 36 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." The problem most people have in using this verse to defend THEIR position, is it takes the verse out of context, and scripture is contextual and needs to be viewed in its entire context.

Right after Jesus tells us what people will be doing in the last days, as in the days of Noah, it tells us WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.

42"Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

If your still arguing your stated position, after the very words of Christ himself, he continues a warning 45"Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47I tell you the truth, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, 'My master is staying away a long time,' 49and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Now lets go back to the BEGINNING of the chapter, because even though Jesus states no man will know the hour or the day, HE DOES tell us what will happen just prior to Christs return. So we might not know the day or hour we can know when the time is getting short. 1Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2"Do you see all these things?" he asked. "I tell you the truth, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down." 3As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?"

4Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.

9"Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

15"So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house. 18Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak. 19How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. 21For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again. 22If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'There he is!' do not believe it. 24For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. 25See, I have told you ahead of time.

26"So if anyone tells you, 'There he is, out in the desert,' do not go out; or, 'Here he is, in the inner rooms,' do not believe it. 27For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

29"Immediately after the distress of those days " 'the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.'

30"At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. 31And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

32"Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it[d]is near, right at the door. 34I tell you the truth, this generation[e] will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

There are a number of books in the Bible dealing in end time prophecy. Prophecy isn't their to cause paranoia, its there to let us know when the end is near, so that we may be prepared AND to prepare OTHERS.

Titus 2: 13 say we are Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

I'm looking and waiting for Christs return.

Are you?

245 posted on 05/23/2009 5:41:26 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: mountn man

EXCELLENT POINTS.

THANKS.


251 posted on 05/23/2009 5:58:06 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: mountn man

Yep!


264 posted on 05/23/2009 6:20:17 PM PDT by sport
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