“I have never been to a graduation or awards ceremony where I saw this kind of behavior. Never.
If I had done any of these things at a ceremony, I would have been disciplined. It wouldn’t have been pretty, let me tell you.
But then again, I understand respect for the uniform and respect for myself.
I always though they taught Officers to have some class.
I guess it can’t be taught, you need to be born with it.
Disgraceful behavior by some of these young men.”
I was there. Much of what went on at the USNA graduation was merely youthful exuberance. This was not graduation after 6-10 weeks of basic training: these young men and women have spent four very long, very difficult, and very demanding years at one of the most elite military academies in the world. The jumping for joy and holding their diplomas over their heads is SOP at a Navy graduation.
President Obama slapped some graduates on the back, embraced others, and shook hands with all.
All the young men and women were respectful, although I did see the fist-bump, and felt that it came perilously close to crossing the line of decorum, but it was a mutual act between the CIC and a junior officer. If the CIC thought it okay, who are we to object?
I do object to your insinuation that these Ensigns and 2nd Lt’s lack class or don’t respect the uniform. I have known very, very many of them over the years, and I can assure you that their commitment to the uniform and the Constitution is second to none. As for class, class does not dictate that a military officer lack personality or act like an automaton.
There is a time and a place for everything, and at a Navy graduation/commissioning, a little celebration is quite appropriate.
(father of a USNA graduate, now a USMC helo pilot)
I wasn't just referring to basic training graduation. Enlisted people do have other ceremonies. Finishing basic is not the only accomplishment achieved by our enlisted men and women.
For example a Chief Petty Officer Ceremony. The men and women I know who have achieved this have spent a lot more time than 4 years reaching this goal. For many it was very long and difficult and of course in real day to day work.
I meant no disrespect to Officers.
My opinion I guess. It doesn't look right to me.
I remember an awards ceremony where a 2nd class went up to receive a medal, and didn't square his corners.
His Chief tore him a new one forever. Something about it looking like he was going up to pick up a pizza.
Different time I guess.
Sorry if I offended anyone.
Proud daughter of a brave man who spent over 20 years enlisted in the US Army. Fought in 2 wars.
Proud wife of a wonderful retired Chief in the US Coast Guard.
And proud of my own enlisted service in the Coast Guard as well.
I've been to lots of enlisted ceremonies over the years. Believe me, the men and women being recognized felt every bit as accomplished and proud of their achievements as these men and women in the above photos. No automatons. Just respectful behavior.
“I do object to your insinuation that these Ensigns and 2nd Lt’s lack class or don’t respect the uniform...class does not dictate that a military officer lack personality or act like an automaton.”
No, it doesn’t require acting like a robot. However, there is a time and place. On stage with the President, you should show some reserve. I thought that way when graduates did chest bumps with President Bush.
AFTER you leave the stage, you can cut up. But it is bad form to lack enough discipline to cross a stage with the President without acting like he’s your brother.
And since THIS President is a US-hating racist communist, it would have been appropriate to cross the stage as though you were at a funeral.