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To: Birch T. Barlow; Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; metmom; BykrBayb; floriduh voter; Lesforlife; ...
I understand what you are trying to do troll. If you want to pretend Christ was about those things, go ahead. People like you have been around for a long time. The self-professed Christians Mahatma Ghandi was refering to when he said "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." Unfortunately Ghandi was subjected to people who view Christianity the way you do, not those truly seeking to be Christ-like in action and attitudes.

The attitudes and behaviors associated with Christ are love, humility, compassion, patience, kindness, selflessness, being a good servant-leader. Wagglebee has exhibited none of these on this forum. In fact, as soon as he gets a post that may challenge him the first thing he does is ping his list. If Wagglebee is the one you have chosen to follow at his beck and call, look a little higher source for guidance.

Just so we are clear, I DID NOT ping any complete lists, I merely pinged a few FReepers who I know would be interested.

For starters you have NEVER answered the simple question I posed in post #311, Out of curiosity what is it you find "haughty" about morality? While I do not know for certain exactly why you refuse, my assumption is that your sole intent is to hurl invectives at those who do not subscribe to your brand of moral relativism.

So, I thought I would clarify things and explain to you precisely what I believe and why.

I believe that the Ten Commandments and the "Sermon on the Mount" as found in the Gospel of Matthew chapters 5, 6 and 7 tells us exactly how to live our lives. Further, I believe that our Lord's discourse on the sheep and the goats found in the last portion of chapter 25 of Matthew clarifies how we are to treat one another. And while I believe that the acceptance of Christ is necessary for Salvation, I also believe that these Teachings are absolute and valid for Christians and non-Christians alike.

I believe that, through the Declaration of Independence and Constitution, our Founding Fathers gave us a near-perfect form of government and plan for its function. I believe that these were based firmly on Judeo-Christian principles and that abandonment of these principles is the greatest danger our Republic will ever face.

I believe that Ronald Reagan's 1975 CPAC speech, Let Them Go Their Way, provides the clearest blueprint for conservatism and I also believe that the GOP has abandoned nearly all conservative principles. I believe that it is possibly to reform the GOP into the party that Reagan envisioned and formed, but that this is unlikely.

Yes, as everyone knows, I have been in charge of the Moral Absolutes ping list for several years. I believe that just as nature has immutable laws, there are also immutable moral laws. There ARE right and wrongs and they are precise and inflexible as gravity, but for too long the moral relativists have tried to redefine and minimize these and THIS more than anything else is the source of most of society's problems.

I also have been doing the Homosexual Agenda ping list for several years. I believe that homosexuality is unnatural, immoral, sinful and unhealthy. That being said, if two people want to be left alone to live this way, that is their choice, my chief opposition is their insistence that society accept and validate their lifestyle and the force indoctrination of others. This ping list IS NOT as you have previously suggested an "anal" ping lit.

I have been running the Terri Dailies ping list for several months and have been involved with almost since its inception. Nearly all of the threads I post and participate in are pro-life in nature. I believe that life is an absolute right from God and find it quite disturbing that this is even a subject of debate on a conservative forum, yet it is.

Just so we are clear, I have no problem with people who disagree with me. I have been a part of a great many Catholic vs. Protestant theological debates on here and I have pinged a few FReepers who I have had these arguments with. However, I believe they will all agree that I DO NOT carry grudges toward them and I have joined them in support on far more threads than I have opposed them on.

So, if, as you claim, you want to challenge me, then challenge me. Calling me a hypocrite IS NOT a challenge, it is an insult which exposes your own ignorance.

608 posted on 05/13/2009 12:55:26 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; Birch T. Barlow; Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; metmom; BykrBayb; floriduh voter; ...
So, if, as you claim, you want to challenge me, then challenge me. Calling me a hypocrite IS NOT a challenge, it is an insult which exposes your own ignorance.

Naw. Perhaps it's not so much a challenge or an insult as a standard ad-hominum tactic that some progressive types use to avoid having to debate on substantive points. It's just a crude way of misdirecting attention, of "changing the subject." At the same time, this writer is evidently holding himself out as "a better Christian" than you are wagglebee; for he faults you for your lack of Christlike behavior, and gives you a detailed list of what that requires. Then he puts up a strawman argument, suggesting that you are looking to attract "a following." What on earth is going on here? Where is the caritas?

You pinged me wagglebee, but I know I'm not on your "official" ping list. You pinged me because you thought I might be interested in this discussion. And you were right: I am.

611 posted on 05/13/2009 1:14:09 PM PDT by betty boop (Tyranny is always whimsical. — Mark Steyn)
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To: wagglebee

Excellent post, wagglebee.


612 posted on 05/13/2009 1:15:42 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee; Birch T. Barlow; metmom; BykrBayb; floriduh voter; Lesforlife

Don’t think you need to apologise to BTB or anyone else for anything. Moral lines need to be drawn in the sand, and now is the time to draw them.


613 posted on 05/13/2009 1:15:54 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Spock didn't need a teleprompter)
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To: wagglebee; BlackElk

Good verbiage. Not the raucous concatenation of alliterating adjectives we get from BlackElk, but above average for the compound-complex sentence structure.

And now, back to my previous state of inertia.


618 posted on 05/13/2009 1:27:28 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Leave the presence of a fool, for there you do not meet words of knowledge."~Pr. 14:7)
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To: wagglebee

AMEN!


639 posted on 05/13/2009 2:22:03 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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