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To: grey_whiskers; PugetSoundSoldier; Mojave
companies “cheat” their workers by looking only at front-line labor costs, not counting the extra costs built in by offshoring /outsourcing, which are spread out throughout the product or system lifecycle, hidden under a multitude of budget items.

And the government helps them by subsidizing their distribution of their products so they still appear to be cheaper. In California, it is the taxpayers that get to pick up the tab for port improvements, road maintenance, environmental effects, etc. Heaven forbid that some of that might be relieved by one of those awful tariffs or container fees! Just hint at it and you'll be accused of being a "protectionist" or wanting to start a trade war.

191 posted on 05/10/2009 7:09:34 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: calcowgirl
Heaven forbid that some of that might be relieved by one of those awful tariffs or container fees!

Yep. Thank goodness Ronald Reagan never used tariffs or protected American industries.

/sarcasm

195 posted on 05/10/2009 7:12:40 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: calcowgirl
And the government helps them by subsidizing their distribution of their products so they still appear to be cheaper. In California, it is the taxpayers that get to pick up the tab for port improvements, road maintenance, environmental effects, etc. Heaven forbid that some of that might be relieved by one of those awful tariffs or container fees! Just hint at it and you'll be accused of being a "protectionist" or wanting to start a trade war.

Ever done any international shipping - export or import? There are port taxes for transport, customs brokerage fees, customs inspection fees, dock fees, longshoremen fees, dock transport fees. There's tons of fees already which should cover the costs of the physical operation and maintenance of the ports. I know, I have to pay them on top of the duties (tariffs) required.

The fact your port authority mismanages its money is not because of free trade, but because of Government greed and graft. If it's anything like the Port of Seattle, somehow they can blow through hundreds of millions of dollars and still always need more to build the newest Port Authority office complex, or finance a dozen more trips abroad to see the port of Bali, or some other waste of dollars.

Government mismanagement of funds is not a result of free trade!

220 posted on 05/11/2009 6:45:38 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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