[raygunfan]

hilarious when the whole house of cards is built on non existant, non visible, ‘dark’ matter....

and they claim we creationist believe in fairy tales...

whatabunchMAROOOOOONS....

[Rebel_Ace]

"...hilarious when the whole house of cards is built on non existant, non visible, ‘dark’ matter..."

You can't "see" wind, but you can observe it's effects.

In fact, you cannot "see" the individual molecules of air that compose the wind, but you can observe their cumulative effects.

You cannot "see" gravity, but I would be willing to bet that you RESPECT the effects you observe.

You cannot "see" the electrons that were pushed around to post your message or this reply.

The BIG difference between SCIENCE and "creationist fairy tales" is that Scientists will go out and measure observable effects and attempt to explain them. When a "scientific" explanation fits the observed data, it is considered the "best" explanation to date. When NEW information is collected (by making observations, conducting experiments, you know, that whole "research" thing) that DOES NOT FIT the current model, scientists re-evaluate the models, looking for weaknesses and the means to IMPROVE understanding. This is not a fault in science, this IS SCIENCE.

This is how ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE expands and improves. If you just argue about what a couple of thousand year old text has to say, whether it is the Bible, or the Koran or the Epic of Gilgamesh, you're going to be stuck with 2000 year old world views.