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UFO or not UFO? Area 51 declassifying pours cold water on theory
thetechherald ^ | Apr 12 2009 | Rich Bowden

Posted on 04/12/2009 6:41:16 PM PDT by JoeProBono

A former engineer at the top secret airfield "Area 51" in Nevada has spoken out about UFO sightings in the region in the 1960s, saying the witnessed flashes of light were part of top secret US aircraft experiments.

In an interview with ABC News, Thornton "T.D." Barnes, 72, a former special-projects engineer at Area 51 said: "No one really knew we existed. Even our wives didn't know where we were going when we left Monday morning and came back Friday evening."

Barnes was an electronics engineer for NASA who also specialised in advance radar and Soviet MiG fighter aircraft and was asked to join a team of CIA experts who would work on secret military projects at the infamous base.

UFO folklore has it that Area 51, about 80 miles north northwest of Las Vegas, is where captured aliens and their spacecraft have been stored by the US military. The conspiracy theory comes in part because of the preponderance of strange, unaccounted for lights that have been seen in the region of the top secret military base.

However Barnes poured cold water on the theory saying the "alien spaceships" were in fact light flashes from top secret spy planes being flown at 2,000 miles per hour at altitudes of 90,000 feet.


TOPICS: UFO's; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: area51; ufo
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Grainy B&W image of supposed UFO , Passoria, New Jersey, 1952. Credit: CIA

The experimental planes produced light flashes that some interpreted as alien spaceships and this was considered helpful by the team in covering their activities.

"We considered it to be a bonus," said Barnes. "They made it easier to conceal what we were doing."

However some ufologists have said the area has only been partly declassified and UFO work at the base may well have carried out though in a region unknown to engineers such as Barnes.

"Those guys who came forward may very well be telling the truth, with the caveat that they wouldn't know if there was something going on," said Stanton T. Friedman, a nuclear physicist, lecturer and top UFO researcher.

Friedman added that evidence coming out of places such as Area 51 proved how much was going on in the country without peoples' knowledge.

"National security has a real place in all of this stuff. There is no way to tell your friends without telling your enemies," he said. "A lot of Americans woke up to the fact that there's a lot going on that they don't get told about."

1 posted on 04/12/2009 6:41:16 PM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

I used to work that “Area” and that pic is as hokey as a they come.


2 posted on 04/12/2009 6:44:33 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: JoeProBono

Having served in the military in one of the intelligence services, I know one thing for sure: Everyone working in Area 51 would have been on a “need to know” basis. So this engineer would have had first-hand knowledge regarding ONLY the specific work and specific projects that HE was assigned. If secret UFO stuff was going on in some remote area of 51, unless this engineer was ASSIGNED to THAT specific type work, he would not have a clue as to ANY of it. So his dismissal of UFO activity, plus $1.50 will get you a cup of coffee at most places, other than Starbucks.


3 posted on 04/12/2009 6:50:51 PM PDT by Tucker39 (I Tim. 1:15b " .....Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.")
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To: JoeProBono

Yeah, so what? We all know they’ve had plenty of time to move everything to Area 52.


4 posted on 04/12/2009 6:58:27 PM PDT by hunter112 (SHRUG - Stop Hussein's Radical Utopian Gameplan!)
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To: hunter112

Utah is secret. Cut it out.


5 posted on 04/12/2009 7:00:25 PM PDT by eyedigress (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil.)
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No ONE person at a sensitive area knows enough to explain much at all. There might not be UFOs there, but there sure and the hell is not a guy who can explain anything in total.


6 posted on 04/12/2009 7:00:33 PM PDT by freeplancer
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To: Quix

Hmmmm . . .


7 posted on 04/12/2009 7:05:22 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Actually, it all started back in Mayberry. Helen Crump was a traveler and Floyd, well, you know...)
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To: hunter112
It's not top secret anymore... Area 53 ?
8 posted on 04/12/2009 7:16:57 PM PDT by GSP.FAN
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To: eyedigress
This area?


9 posted on 04/12/2009 7:18:31 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: freeplancer
"There might not be UFOs there"

The truth is out there, one just has to believe.

10 posted on 04/12/2009 7:21:21 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Tucker39

11 posted on 04/12/2009 7:21:40 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

Maybe??? Dirt is in my eyes, hang on.


12 posted on 04/12/2009 7:23:30 PM PDT by eyedigress ( Woe unto them that join house to house, that lay field to field, till there be no place.)
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To: hunter112

13 posted on 04/12/2009 7:24:03 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: eyedigress

You digress


14 posted on 04/12/2009 7:25:21 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
Did you wake him up? It's Easter you know.


15 posted on 04/12/2009 7:29:10 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

All the time. Ding! Ding! Ding! Ten bucks goes to FR on behalf of Joe the nice attorney. :^)


16 posted on 04/12/2009 7:30:07 PM PDT by eyedigress ( Woe unto them that join house to house, that lay field to field, till there be no place.)
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They sure have moved up on UFO pictures, haven't they? This one was photographed on several different days in several different configurations. (google: capitola ufo)
17 posted on 04/12/2009 7:39:47 PM PDT by Sundog (The founding fathers understood what would happen when all three branches of government failed.)
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To: Sundog

18 posted on 04/12/2009 7:46:06 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

Nothing personal and your pics are great. I worked the “range” for a number of years. It’s not a visual thing.


19 posted on 04/12/2009 7:47:02 PM PDT by eyedigress ( Woe unto them that join house to house, that lay field to field, till there be no place.)
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To: Paladin2
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20 posted on 04/12/2009 7:47:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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