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To: LomanBill; NormsRevenge; HangnJudge; Carry_Okie; betty boop; metmom; TXnMA; DallasMike; MHGinTN
Thank you so very much for sharing your views, dear LomanBill!

Truly, not everyone has a sense of time as an actual dimension as I do and as MHGinTN does. (sorry for not pinging you earlier, dear MHGinTN)

And for many physicists, time is the most mysterious of all challenges.

Incomprehensibly except for the relationship that was manufactured, by Him, when He became like one of us and allowed Himself to be sacrificed to effect the reconciliation of the Created with their Creator.

Indeed. And please forgive my failure to expand on the last point raised at post 19 in speaking of mathematical Platonism and Tegmark's cosmology that physical reality in four dimensions is actually a manifestation of mathematical structures which actually exist outside of space and time.

To some of us his words, like Wigner's "unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics", is math-speak for Logos, the Word, Jesus Christ, Creator of "all that there is" whether spiritual of physical.

In the beginning was the Word [Logos], and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. – John 1:1-4

Logos is also the root of the word "logic."

To God be the glory!

22 posted on 04/02/2009 9:45:51 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
>>Truly, not everyone has a sense of time as an actual dimension
 
Certainly the element of time is observed to be a function, upon which the mathematical description of the universe is critically dependent.
 
The question of Time, as I see it, is whether time is causative or derivative.  I propose that it is merely derivative, and a function of state change; rather than being a cause of state change.
 
 
With regards to Logos, we are in agreement.  Regardless of the causative or derivative nature of time, the observed relational order is, to me,  the imprint of The Word upon His handiwork.
 
>>To God be the glory!
 
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom.(Prov. 1:7).

23 posted on 04/02/2009 10:43:48 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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