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Giant solar waves spew more energy than 10 bn atom bombs
The Times of India ^ | 21 Mar 2009, 1634 hrs IST, IANS

Posted on 03/21/2009 7:52:51 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: AntiKev

Well, the Airborne Corps pushed me out of an airplane with little or no training.

Getting my SEL was actually harder, but I already had it, by the time I joined the army. Neighbor was a check pilot for Eastern, and instead of paying me to mow his lawn, he taught me to fly.


41 posted on 03/21/2009 1:11:16 PM PDT by patton (If Hawai'i seccedes, is Barack Obama still an illegal alien?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’ll have to read it.

thanks.


42 posted on 03/21/2009 1:27:03 PM PDT by GreyMountainReagan (Liberals do not view the book 1984 as a warning but as a instruction manual.)
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To: patton
Traveling at an unspecified number of furlongs per fortnight?

EXACTLY! Now you're getting it...:) And I think it's about 7 gross and 3 score furlongs per fortnight, but I could be off by a fist or two...

43 posted on 03/21/2009 4:32:56 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

How many shakes or wags is that?


44 posted on 03/21/2009 4:42:14 PM PDT by patton (If Hawai'i seccedes, is Barack Obama still an illegal alien?)
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To: Swordmaker; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 75thOVI; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; ...
Thanks Ernest_at_the_Beach!
 
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45 posted on 03/21/2009 5:10:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; martin_fierro; Seadog Bytes; JoeProBono

You realize of course, it’s only a matter of time before some smart aleck posts pics of Alvin (of the Chipmunks) or Corona beer. Or maybe Alvin the Chipmunk enjoying a Corona.


46 posted on 03/21/2009 5:12:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

Sep 06, 2005
Solar Power, Internal or External?

http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/arch05/050906solarpower.htm

excerpt:

“Our present Pole Star, so long the epitome of stability, has been found to have brightened by 250 per cent over the past two millennia. And astronomers cannot explain why the anomalously rapid rate of increase. As Edward Guinan, an astronomer at Villanova University in Pennsylvania announced, ‘It should not be getting that bright that fast. It’s not behaving as expected. It’s kind of scary.’”

And:

“Like our Pole Star, Neptune is not only getting brighter, it is also changing its color. Like Saturn and Jupiter, it radiates more heat than it receives and, at present, is actually warmer than Uranus which is closer to the Sun.”

The above is just a small sampling of the enigmatic phenomena of the sun. Explaining such phenomena is quite a challenge for the currently popular theories in astrophysics: They must generally look for a mysterious internal cause powered ultimately by the weak force of gravity.

The features listed above have rather simple explanations when the energy source is posited to be an external virtual cathode operating on a positively charged body. In the Electric Universe scheme of things, stars (including brown dwarfs and gas-giant planets) are formed and powered by external agencies: electric fields and plasma currents. The sphericity of our sun is also explained by internal electric forces that simply overwhelm gravitational and centrifugal forces that otherwise should make the sun oblate..


47 posted on 03/21/2009 5:40:15 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Hannes Alfven's Solar Prominence

ELECTRIC COSMOS

48 posted on 03/21/2009 5:48:39 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: patton
How many shakes or wags is that?

Well now, that IS the question for this thread! And the answer would depend upon your desire to use either the Byzantine shake, or the Moorish wag.

Should be accurate within an Assyrian peck or so, I figure. If my abacus is correct!

49 posted on 03/21/2009 6:06:17 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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Interesting. Hannes Alfven was a proponent of the Electric Universe... and the Electric Sun. PING!

"Queen's University Belfast (QUB) scientists with researchers from the Universities of Sheffield and California State, have shed some light on why the corona, the region around the sun, has a much higher temperature than its surface - something of a puzzle to scientists."

Again, orthodox cosmologists are "puzzled" by something that is explicable by the Electric Universe model. Hannes Alfven, using the tenets of the Electric Universe Theory, predicted the existence of these "newly discovered" waves... which is why they are named after him.

Hmmmm. Isn't one proof of a Theory in how well it predicts future findings?

If you want on or off the Electric Universe Ping List, Freepmail me.

50 posted on 03/21/2009 6:11:50 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: patton
But my point was, there are no numbers.

Yes, there was... 10 billion. That's a number...

However, you are right. They did not define their units. Is this "atomic bomb" unit the equivalent of one Hiroshima (15 kilotons)? Or could it be the equivalent of one Tsar Bomba (55-66 Megatons)? Or something in between?

51 posted on 03/21/2009 6:21:32 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

hot off the THUNDERBOLTS press:

http://www.thunderbolts.info/thunderblogs/archives/descott08/090321_des.htm

NASA Pseudo-skeptic Receives Rebuttal from Electric Universe Theorist
by Dr. Donald E. Scott
March 21, 2009

[Editor’s note: On March 16 Dr. Donald E. Scott gave a presentation of electric universe concepts to a gathering at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center, which appeared to be well-received by many of the attendees.

However there he met with pseudo-skeptic Dr. Tom Bridgman who had offered a “critique” of Scott’s book The Electric Sky last year, and who, whilst ‘personable’ to Scott’s face, has since written further pseudo-criticism of Scott’s presentation. The following are a few excerpts from Scott’s rebuttal of Bridgman’s original “critique”.]

When I first heard about Dr. Tom Bridgman’s 48-page onslaught against me and the material I present in my book, The Electric Sky (TES), I thought I would simply ignore him. But friends I admire and trust have repeatedly implored me to take up my pen so that the casual reader of his criticisms will not assume I accept them. These following paragraphs are not a comprehensive dissection of each and every allegation he made. They are simply my reaction to what stood out as being most outrageously inaccurate, and uninformed.

Bridgman’s ‘critique’ can be found here:
http://homepage.mac.com/cygnusx1/anomalies/ElectricSky_20080322.pdf

The following is my response to Bridgman (TB) roughly in the order in which he states his objections...


52 posted on 03/21/2009 6:29:25 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Swordmaker

Velikovsky said that the key to reconciling his claims with scientific theory would be ELECTROMAGNETISM, a force in which astronomers and cosmologists had no interest in 1950. He stated that if the Sun and the planets are not the “electrically neutral” bodies astronomers assume, then even “the law of gravitation must come into question.”

http://www.thunderbolts.info/velikovsky-ghost.htm


53 posted on 03/21/2009 6:37:10 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: patton
Haden’t realised that “atomic bomb” was a measure of energy. How many BTUs is it?

Well, one kiloton = 3,965,666,831.39 BTUs So... if their unit of measurement is one Hiroshima... we have to figure kilotons:

One kiloton = 3,965,666,831.39 BTUs

3,965,666,831.39 BTUs x 15 x 10,000,000,000 = 5.948500247085e+20BTUs = 594,850,024,708,500,000,000 BTUs or so...

Call it 595 Quintillion BTUs

However, if unit is a Tsar Bomba then we need to figure on megatons

One megaton = 39,656,668,313,900 BTUs.

Assuming the yield of the Twar Bomba unit was only 55 Megatons, then the calculation would be:

39,656,668,313,900 BTUs x 55 X 10,000,000,000 = 2.181116757264e+25 BTUs = 21,811,167,572,640,000,000,000,000 BTUs

Call that one 21.8 Septillion BTUs.

Does that answer your question???

54 posted on 03/21/2009 6:45:18 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks FN.


55 posted on 03/21/2009 6:53:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Swordmaker

By Tsar Bomba do you mean that gigantic thing the Russians blew off around 1955 the same year we had the two giant hurricanes Hazel and Diane?


56 posted on 03/21/2009 7:30:35 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; shibumi

I know...and they’re freakin’ killin’ me.

;-D


57 posted on 03/21/2009 7:31:03 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.......)
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Haden’t realised that “atomic bomb” was a measure of energy. How many BTUs is it?

"atomic bomb" is a unit of energy known only to journalists.

That's a lot of "Courics."

58 posted on 03/21/2009 7:35:44 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: wendy1946
By Tsar Bomba do you mean that gigantic thing the Russians blew off around 1955 the same year we had the two giant hurricanes Hazel and Diane?

Nope. Tsar Bomba is considered the largest air blast every exploded. It was detonated on October 30, 1961 (probably in celebration of the past August's birth of the messiah Obomba somewhere in Kenya) on the Arctic island of Novaya Zemlya. It was 55 to 66 Megatons.

59 posted on 03/21/2009 8:04:17 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

thanks, bfl


60 posted on 03/21/2009 9:48:18 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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