[GOPJ]

...you think society is going to collapse into chaos and you want to get off the grid, I think it's unlikely. Possible, but unlikely. And if everything collapses, do you really think you can get far enough out that two people can defend a cabin fortress? Not unless you're considering Alaska as the destination.

There's wisdom in mysterio's words... One of the historical reasons for towns and villages was people banding together to protect each other. Finding like minded people might be a challenge - but a worthwhile one.

[Alia]

Exactly.