[Frantzie]

I may get flack from some Beatles fans but when you hear the session tapes when they are working on the rough songs- the songs sound pretty lame and crappy. Just another skiffle group.

Martin and Emerick must have been able to take fairly so so songs to the next level.

[KevinB]

I may get flack from some Beatles fans but when you hear the session tapes when they are working on the rough songs- the songs sound pretty lame and crappy. Just another skiffle group.

Most songs by any group start out like that. Take a listen to the BBC sessions album, consisting of live versions of their songs performed in the BBC radio studio, and you should gain some appreciation for their skill as musicians and performers.