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Arizona: UFO over Tucson spotted
allnewsweb. ^ | 15-2-2009

Posted on 02/14/2009 8:31:48 PM PST by JoeProBono

A number of witnesses have come forward to describe remarkable sighting of a UFO in the vicinity of the city of Tucson, Arizona. The UFO is being described as classic saucer shaped with red glowing lights. The craft was spotted on the evening of 11 February 2009. One witness was sitting and watching television with her husband, a former Airman, and her daughter when she noticed a UFO through a large glass sliding door that looks out towards the Tucson Mountains behind her backyard.The witness described the object as disc shaped with non-strobing red lights at its front and rear. She estimated it was moving south to north at an altitude of about 150m. The object then ‘exploded’ in a large blaze of bright white light and sped away horizontal to the earth at an incredible speed.

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TOPICS: UFO's; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: arizona; tucson; ufo
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To: Quix

Search for “P-51 and UFO” and “F-86 and UFO”. Who knows what is going on in our friendly skies. ;0(


61 posted on 02/15/2009 5:00:11 AM PST by seemoAR
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To: theymakemesick

“FAA regs require a white anti-collision light on the tail of aircraft, this one was in violation if it didn’t have one.”

...hmmm, perhaps then it was from another dimension (or they could find a clear lens for the tail).


62 posted on 02/15/2009 5:10:00 AM PST by BobL (Drop a comment: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2180357/posts)
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To: NoLibZone

“A detailed photograph shows irrefutable proof an alien aircraft. Note the sophisticated rivets around windows three and four.”

LOL. Impressive. And you can see the coefficient of drag is 0.267, whereas the best that Earthlings can do is 0.269.

Definitely supernatural.


63 posted on 02/15/2009 5:15:40 AM PST by BobL (Drop a comment: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2180357/posts)
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To: going hot

This light thing is a straw dog.

It’s a moot issue.

1. You nor anyone else I KNOW FOR CERTAIN OF

has any clue what the lights are all about.

2. The most we can say about the lights, imho, with any certainty . . . is that they are a mysterious part of the game, the drama.

3. Some of the light stuff seems to be and is reportedly related to propulsion dynamics and surface aspects of the craft and the ways they operate.

4. Some of the light stuff is clearly beyond our conventional light stuff in that objects appear to be transported BY and IN . . . BEAMS OF . . . drum roll . . . LIGHT.

5. The operators of the craft, whether “our” Oligarchy folks, “ET’s” or a combination . . . “CLEARLY” are using light displays to . . . what . . .

“play games” . . .
tweak the observers . . .

intimidate? . . .
play cat and mouse . . .

scare folks . . .
impact machinery and/or animals and/or people . . .

manipulate machinery and/or animals and/or people . . .
cause puzzlement, awe, curiosity . . .

cause and observe reactions . . .
damage, cure, control objects, animals, people . . .

transport objects, people . . .
neutralize machinery, objects, people . . .

#############################################

Who said the objects wanted to hide with their lights on? THAT’S DUMB and grossly uninformed, unthinking, silly!

They have demonstrated that they CAN hide EXCEEDINGLY WELL—whether they are traveling at super speeds or hovering stationary over a metropolis in broad daylight.

Grade schoolers playing games in the forest at night at camp can turn their flashlights off at will. Does anyone really think “ET’s” can’t do so with their sophisticated craft? THAT’S DUMB, UNTHINKING, UNINFORMED, SILLY!

Let us lay to rest this UTTER NONSENSE about the “running lights” of the UFO’s. It’s an enormously hollow straw dog. It’s an obtuse, ignorant, tweaky, silly, absurdity from the git-go. It’s not really worth much of a comment, it’s so silly. The pontificators recognize it as silly and try to use it to tweak those of us who want to discuss the topic seriously. When, actually, it’s really egg on the face of those raising the issue in the first place. It’s plainly just a dumb tweak.

It’s kind of like an 8 year old boy saying something exceedingly obtuse and irrational to the girl of his dreams to tweak her, tease her only it’s so dumb it just falls flat leaving her thinking HE’S really NOT very good at thinking.

Sheesh.


64 posted on 02/15/2009 6:24:14 AM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: seemoAR

Maybe this afternoon.

You have some insightful comments about such goings on?


66 posted on 02/15/2009 6:34:51 AM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: seemoAR

HERE’S THE FIRST SEARCH LINK:

P51

http://www.dogpile.com/dogpile/ws/results/Web/%E2%80%9CP-51%20!2BUFO%E2%80%9D/1/417/TopNavigation/Relevance/iq=true/zoom=off/_iceUrlFlag=7?_IceUrl=true


67 posted on 02/15/2009 6:36:42 AM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: seemoAR; AU72; aragorn; B-Chan; A knight without armor; BigSkyVic; BreezyDog; DollyCali; GingisK; ..
HERE'S THE 2ND SEARCH:

http://www.dogpile.com/dogpile/ws/results/Web/%E2%80%9CF-86%20!2BUFO%E2%80%9D/1/417/TopNavigation/Relevance/iq=true/zoom=off/_iceUrlFlag=7?_IceUrl=true

AND THIS INTERESTING LINK:

http://www.nicap.org/nmexico/newmexicosightings.htm


The Nuclear Connection Project
The New Mexico Sightings

[QUIX: PHOTO/MAP AND DRAWING image won't hotlink. Check it out at the link above.]

Path of UFO over nuclear weapons bunkers.
(See Kirtland AFB, November 4, 1957)


Updated: September 3, 2005
The evidence for a UFO/Nuclear Connection grows stronger by the day. Official FBI, CIA, Army and Air Force documents establish, beyond a doubt, that UFOs have been seen and reported where uranium was mined and plutonium was manufactured (the Congo, New Mexico, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, the Hanford Plant at Washington, the Savannah River facility at South Carolina). Official reports are on file of UFOs seen where bomb development took place (Los Alamos, Sandia Base) and where nuclear weapons were stored (Manzano Mountain near Kirtland, NM, and Killeen Base at Camp Hood, TX).

This is a part of that story, the New Mexico Sightings, which we produced to include all the known cases and provided links to the full report directories and official supporting documents. Where enough information is not available to produce a case directory, the supporting documents are provided as temporary directories. This report includes the 209-case La Paz Catalog (known also as the AFOSI Summary of Sightings of Unknown Aerial Phenomena) which is made up primarily of Green Fireball cases in New Mexico, the majority of which are unknowns.
 
I wish to thank Dan Wilson, one of our staff researchers, for his fine research into the Blue Book Archives for the supporting documents in most of these cases. And to Brad Sparks for his re-evaluation of the Project Blue Book Unknowns which doubled the  number of cases that were unexplained, many of which occurred in New Mexico and other high-security areas such as Oak Ridge (TN) and Killeen Base (TX). His summaries provide most of the compacted detail for many of the cases. The latest major contribution, in the form of a digitized version of the La Paz catalog, was the work of Jean Waskiewicz. The digitized version of the catalog would not have happened at all without the suggestion of Brad Sparks and the acquisition of clean, clear copies of the AFOSI catalog from Jan Aldrich. The AFOSI entries are brief and listed just as they were translated unless the full report documents have been retrieved from the Blue Book Archives. In that case any errors in the 209 case AFOSI Summary will be corrected.

If you have information of an important nature to provide for this report, please contact me at your convenience.

Francis Ridge
Coordinator, Nuclear Connection Project
nicap@insightbb.com


NICAP records show the first sighting in New Mexico as March of 1944:

March 1944; Carlsbad, NM
An Air Force B-17 pilot saw a fast-moving, glowing green object which lit up the cockpit, and moved out of sight over the horizon. (NICAP files)

The earliest report listed in the AFOSI Summary of Unknown Aerial Phenomena (AFOSI #1) is for January 19, 1946. However, this occurred outside of New Mexico and the U.S., near Brest, in Europe. 

June 27, 1947; White Sands, NM
Captain E.B. Detchmendy reported a white, glowing UFO passing over the White Sands missile range and reported it to his commanding officer. (UFO Encyclopedia)

June 29, 1947; White Sands, NM 
[1:20?] p.m. USN Naval Research Lab rocket scientist-engineer Dr. Carl J. Zohn, Admin Asst., Rocket Sonde Section, White Sands Proving Ground (WSPG), NRL scientist Curtis C. Rockwood and his wife, and WSPG technician John R. Kauke, were driving in a car from Las Cruces to WSPG headed NE when they saw to their right front [E] a rotating silvery or shiny disc or sphere with no appendages, wings, tail, propellers, reflecting sunlight [pulsating?], crossing the sky at high speed heading N at about 8,000-10,000 ft which suddenly disappeared in mid-air in a clear cloudless sky. Kauke had stopped the car and briefly saw a short vapor trail at one point not reported by the others. Zohn on the passenger side rolled the window for an unobstructed view.

July, 1947; Roswell, NM
The file on the Roswell crash is too large to delve into at this time but can be accessed at the link provided.

July 10, 1947; near Fort Sumner, NM
A white, sharply-outlined, 200' ellipsoidal object was reported and listed in the Blue Book Unknowns.(McDonald) A midday sighting by a University of New Mexico meteoriticist, Dr. Lincoln La Paz, and members of his family was summarized by _Life_ magazine years ago without identifying La Paz's name. At 4:47 p.m. MST on 7/10/47, four members of the La Paz family nearly simultaneously noted "a curious bright object almost motionless" low on the western horizon, near a cloudbank. The object was described as ellipsoidal, whitish, and having sharply-outlined edges. It wobbled a bit as it hovered stationary just above the horizon, then moved upwards, passed behind clouds and re-emerged farther north in a time interval which La Paz estimated to be so short as to call for speeds in excess of conventional aircraft speeds. It passed in front of dark clouds and seemed self-luminous by contrast. It finally disappeared amongst the clouds. La Paz estimated it to be perhaps 20 miles away, judging from the clouds involved; and he put its length at perhaps 165-245 ft.

Late August, 1947; Holloman AFB, NM
A CPS-4 radar was modified to track objects at very high altitude, aimed its antenna straight up, and picked up a target at 200 miles up. The report leaked out and Project SIGN sent two high-level investigators but the prime witnesses were conveniently not available. What can remain stationary at 200 miles up and who had anything like that in 1947? A detailed report can be accessed from the above link.

AFOSI Case 2: Late 1947; Vaughn, NM.
Not listed in either BB Unknown list, original or updated, this incident is listed as #2 in the LaPaz/OSI catalog of events. It is Incident 225. Colonel Hayes first observed an unusual aerial phenomena during the latter part of 1947. This occurred in the vicinity of Vaughn, NM. The phenomena appeared approximately 400-500 ft above the ground when first observed and was descending slowly and steadily in a vertical manner toward the earth. It appeared slightly larger than a basketball, bright white in color like a miniature sun. At a point approximately 200 feet above the surface of the earth, the object appeared to explode although no noise was apparent. By this time the Colonel had stopped his automobile and had gotten out to watch the object. The explosion or disintegration appeared to be taking place some 40 to 60 yards distant and still no noise was noticed. At this time the fragments assumed a fiery red color and descended toward earth like numerous sparks being extinguished before touching the ground. At the time Col Hayes was dn Highway 60, near a railroad and separated from the vicinity where the fragments were landing by a fence. He did not cross the fence or investigate further.

Late August 1947; Alamogordo [Holloman] Army Air Field, NM
AMC Watson Labs Project MOGUL communications officer Lt. H. G. Markley while watching 2 balloons with radar reflector to the SE in 10x binoculars saw traveling at unprecedented rate of speed around white object in horizontal flight S to N several thousand feet over the tops of Sacramento Mtns. [Case falsely explained by AF as false radar targets when no radar observation was involved.] (BBU, FOIA; Mary Castner/CUFOS; Loren Gross Aug-Dec 1947 SUPP p. 28; July-Dec 1949 orig ed p. 25)


68 posted on 02/15/2009 6:47:56 AM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Baynative
Why it is these UFOs are never seen in early warning satellite scans or high altitude radar on their way to cruise American cities?

And what makes you this they're not?

69 posted on 02/15/2009 6:50:59 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: JoeProBono
I have info on an earlier Tucson sighting from a few months ago.

My retired parents live about 20 miles south of Tucson and one early morning (4 - 5:00am) they were awoken by what they thought was someone hitting their bedroom window, like sharp, loud taps on the window. My father sprung out of bed and looked out but nothing there. The next morning the entire neighborhood was talking about the same thing. Some of the locals assumed it was gun fire from a local wash.

A few days later my father's friend came to him and told him not to tell anyone what he was about to say. He was out in his back yard that morning having coffee (this guy gets up extremely early) and sees some lights hovering over the old mine near their the neighborhood. He watches them for a few minutes and they take off with such rapid acceleration that it makes the loud explosion noises everyone heard.

It's a cool story IMO and it corresponds to this 2/11 story, although my parent's incident was earlier and didn't make the press. The Davis-Monthan Airforce base is right there and my parent's friend didn't mention anything about other planes chasing this thing. So who knows maybe it's one of ours.

70 posted on 02/15/2009 7:04:09 AM PST by weef
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To: Quix

No comments


71 posted on 02/15/2009 7:25:17 AM PST by seemoAR
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To: AlexW; Quix

Type I and type II errors

In statistics, the terms Type I error (also alpha error, or false positive) and type II error (beta error, or a false negative) are used to describe possible errors made in a statistical decision process.

When an observer makes a Type I error in evaluating a sample against its parent population, he is mistakenly thinking that a statistical difference exists when in truth there is no statistical difference (or, to put another way, the null hypothesis is true but was mistakenly rejected). For example, imagine that a pregnancy test has produced a “positive” result (indicating that the woman taking the test is pregnant); if the woman is actually not pregnant though, then we say the test produced a “false positive”.

A Type II error, or a “false negative”, is the error of failing to reject a null hypothesis when the alternative hypothesis is the true state of nature. For example, a type II error occurs if a pregnancy test reports “negative” when the woman is, in fact, pregnant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_I_and_Type_II_errors


72 posted on 02/15/2009 11:13:26 AM PST by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: JoeProBono
"Arizona: UFO over Tucson spotted"

What color were the spots and are there any pictures? I've never seen a "spotted" UFO!

73 posted on 02/15/2009 11:15:14 AM PST by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: Mad Dawgg
"What color were the spots and are there any pictures? I've never seen a "spotted" UFO!"


75 posted on 02/15/2009 11:21:41 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: hugorand

did they see lights? did they spell out “GOODYEAR”?


76 posted on 02/15/2009 11:31:16 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Freedom- 07-04-1776-11-06-2008. RIP)
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To: Joya

Gwarsh. Embarrassing me, now.

What’s so startling to me . . . and humbling when I face my mirror . . . is how many folks God has blessed me with who have insisted that’s true for them.

Thankfully, it’s all GOD’S DOING. I sure didn’t make myself!


77 posted on 02/15/2009 2:20:04 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Yorlik803
did they see lights? did they spell out “GOODYEAR”?

I blew up the photo in Photoshop and they spelled out WHO IS JOHN GALT?

78 posted on 02/15/2009 5:35:40 PM PST by hugorand
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To: hugorand

John Titor’s Brother.


79 posted on 02/15/2009 9:00:30 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: JoeProBono
A number of witnesses have come forward to describe remarkable sighting of a UFO in the vicinity of the city of Tucson, Arizona.

Make more room at the psychiatric hospital for these nutcases!

80 posted on 02/16/2009 5:12:04 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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