STANTON FRIEDMAN PT ONE RE HIS NEW BOOK:
FLYING SAUCERS AND SCIENCE:
A Scientist Investigates The Mysteries of UFO’s
Stanton: . . . the naysayer I debated on CNN’s Larry King . . . had not done ANY homework.
He was not even aware of a list of studies . . . and he had 2 weeks between that show and debating him in another venue and he STILL didn’t do any homework.
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Father Balducci . . . of the Vatican . . . saying it’s OK to acknowledge that aliens are visiting earth . . . and the head of the Vatican Observatory said over a month ago that such was going on.
Giving his spiel about why he thinks some of the ET’s come from Zeta Reticuli.
Reasons for UFO’s visiting us . . .
—education field trips
—honeymooners
—anthropology
—mining . . .
etc.
Talking about Sagan’s letter to Astronomy mag??? about the Betty Hill star map was full of misrepresentations.
Publisher had had a brain tumor at the time he caved-in to Carl Sagan.
part 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioHUne4ACwg&NR=1
What advice does Stanton have for those of us who are the experts on the UFO topic in our social networks.
MAKE SURE HAVE FACTS IN HAND BEFORE PUTTING MOUTH IN GEAR
CAN USUALLY GET LOCAL MEDIA TO EXCHANGE MUTUAL RESPECT.
FIND OTHERS . . . e.g. by joining MUFON . . .
Particularly ally with military folks and pilots.
STANTON SHREDS ISAAC ASIMOV’S RESEARCH BY DECLARATION!
Data is all classified about “uncorrelated targets” . . . can’t call them UFO’s.
STANTON has visited 20 or more document archives. Most debunkers have visited none.
part 11
Stanton Friedman re: Philip Klass
George thinks that Phil helped keep UFOlogists on their toes . . .
George: Was he working for the gov as a debunker?
Stanton . . . he was a natural ‘turn to guy’ for the media . . . he was a handy debunker right there in D.C.
Phil was always making these silly offers . . . he used to brag about having this offer . . . $1,000 vs $100 offer . . .
Stanton: So I pulled $100 out and shocked him . . .
He was a game player . . .
I’ve heard some stories that he had a high level security clearance . . . but I’ve never been able to PROVE that he was taking money from the government.
He pointed out in a rather snotty letter . . . he challenged me on the type face on one of the memo’s . . . perhaps I hadn’t noticed it was in a large Pica type.
He challenged me to find any other memos from the same time frame from NSA . . . he would pay me $100 each up to a limit of 10 of them . . .
I’d already recognized that there were at least 3 other type faces used . . . I went to my files and pulled out 14 memos . . . and was going to the Eisenhower archives . . .
so I submitted an invoice to him for $1,000 and he paid me.
He told everyone about challenging me but he told no one about paying me.
. . . typical of the intellecutal bankruptcy of the pseudo science of anti-UFOlogy.
He got very angry when I published the check. He sent me a threatening letter—his dad was a lawyer. I told him he sent me the check, I xeroxed it and cashed it and I can do whatever I want with the copy. He got off my back.
He was in a position to be very useful to the government. Whether he actually got money for it, I don’t know.
I don’t have the resources the debunkers do.
They are in a position to flood the market with garbage.
The Peter Jennings Mockumentary . . . interviewed 150 people . . . for the show . . . Fewer than 50 made the cut—had a lavish budget; traveled overseas . . .
My theory is that someone in the government said “Hey, we need to find out what all these UFOlogists know at this point. Let’s get a famous newsman to invite them to be on a show . . . “ Over 200 hours of tape . . .
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. . . didn’t make it off the cutting room floor—makes no sense unless there was some perfidious reason . . .
I tried to point out in MJ12 . . . what was wrong with the docs, what was right with the docs and what was wrong with the debunkers.
I have found other examples of the security marking that some claimed was wrong.
One of the main reasons has to be that they don’t want to give up power.
pt 13
Orders were given to shoot the UFO’s down in 1952 if they didn’t land.
I’ve heard 7 which suggests there’s a lot more than that . . . when flying in Europe in early 50’s that we lost 20 planes to UFO’s.
BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY By William Burrouws about 156 military crewman of American recon planes . . . that were tickling Russia and China . . . shot down by the Russians . . . NOT ONE WORD IN PUBLIC ABOUT ANY OF THAT, THEIR FAMILIES WERE ALL LIED TO . . .
That’s a sticky wicket . . . if we’ve been shooting at them and they’ve been shooting back . . . may be something we don’t want to admit to.
What about treaties between gov and aliens . . . violating all kinds of things about Senate approval etc.
Ike meeting aliens at Edwards and at Hollaman AFB.
Found the wife of the dentist. Never recalled hubby treating Ike. Medical records didn’t show a trip to the dentist, either. So it would fit the time line for him to be at Edwards.
I can’t prove those George . . . but I allow room for them.
The problem I have with treaties . . . “We’ll let you abduct humans in exchange for tech . . .” but we don’t “let” them do anything.
We need more imagination about why they might be coming here.
pausing for dindin
Stanton Friedman continued . . . .
Michael Wolf . . . Grandiose claims . . . none of them true . . . not really college educated . . . many mental problems . . .
Part 14
An interesting person with delusions . . . I talked with his sister and brother . . . with people at his apartment . . .
There was no such institute except in his imagination . . .
A very sad case . . .
George: You’ve had some hands on case with disinformation . . .
Stanton: Not really, nobody’s approached me with such.
I think there’s a major event when the Chicago Tribune carried the major event of the OHare sighting . . .
Got more hits on their website than anything they’d ever published—more than 1 million hits . . .
The Trib even wrote something that they were surprised because they’d thought the topic was only of marginal interest to folks.
The French story about going to release their docs . . . the site crashed from overload after 2 hours . . .
Stanton: I like Jacques . . . I have problems with some of his notions but not with Jacques as a person . . . he doesn’t know anything about intersteller travel like most astronomers . . . we have met a number of times. I’ve been in his home.
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