Some gleanings from ATS . . .
ABBREVIATED UFO PING LIST PING
the last THIRD of this post may be the most . . . startling and interesting.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread442770/pg1
Undebatable PROOF that we are not being told everything about the moon
A lot of people have alot of different theories about the moon,
We never went there,
We went there, found aliens, afraid to go back
We went there, OFFICIAL STORY,
We were going there before and after we publicly went
We’ve been going there in private to mine
Our ‘secret space agency’ is going there all the time yada yada...
No matter what theory you prescribe to, it makes no difference. We live in a world where you can zoom in on your house, from an image taken from space. In fact, anyone can zoom in to almost anywhere on this planet. Most of it anyways, other than some censored areas. The fact is we can do this.
Now when trying to figure out whether your being told the whole truth about something, its important to not only look at what is being told to you, but also what is not being told/shown.
If someone has nothing to hide, why not do everything they can to disclose everything they know?
I want everyone to go to google moon. www.google.com...
Keep in mind, we have the ability to map every square inch of earth. And of course, just as easily we could map EVERY square inch of the moon fairly easily.
Does anyone not see how significant it is that they only show us a very small spot on the moon? Not only that, if all these artifacts that we apparently left behind up there existed, why wont they let us ZOOM RIGHT INTO THE MOON? I can zoom in so close to my house I can see my car, yet I am not allowed to see up close on the moon? The fact that they could show us every inch of the moon, but intentionally do not highlights the fact that we are NOT being told exactly whats going on on the moon.
Now I think this is important because it doesn’t matter what side of the debate you prefer, the fact that we aren’t shown a thing is proof of a conspiracy.
So for all those who feel that NASA is an upfront, angelic organization out there for the betterment of space travel... your wrong.
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posted on 5/3/2009 @ 05:27
UFOs, the media, and escalating coverage
We have probably all noticed the level of interest in the UFO phenomena has increased across all media channels over the last year. Living in the UK, you can’t help but notice that The Sun (daily, tabloid) has been running an amazing number of UFO stories. Some reports are very good, and some are more far-fetched and quirky.
Why all of this increase in media interest? I don’t know the answer, but I do know that by looking at statistics we can develop evidence of these trends. I present to you:
Google Trends
On Google, the volume of searches has been reasonably consistent over the last few years, but the volume of news articles carried has risen very quickly.
What does that tell us?
It tells us that whilst there hasn’t been any appreciable change in levels of interest, the media have seen fit to ramp up coverage by three figure percentage points.
This could be for one of two reasons.
a) The media have identified a demand from their audience that was never before recognised, and have scaled up coverage to meet demand.
b) The media see some material benefit in greater exposure of this particular topic, regardless of demand.
Should governments around the world be aware of a genuine ET presence on or around earth, any disclosure would invariably be trialled and instigated through a steady drip-drip in the media.
I would like to ask those on ATS who are of a statistical mind to help try and demonstrate the increasing relevance of this topic to the media, through statistics and other direct evidence.
Thanks,
http://www.google.com/trends?q=ufo&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
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© 2008 by Linda Moulton Howe
THE GUARDIAN
“If you’ve got government agencies working in Hollywood covertly to improve their own images, that’s not only a bad use of funds, it’s also fundamentally anti-Democratic and wrong.” - Matthew Alford, Ph.D.
“The Deep Politics of Hollywood,” a 3-part article by Matthew Alford and Robbie Graham.
Only Part 1 was accepted for publication by The Guardian on November 14, 2008, after editors
changed the original title, “Spooks and the Silver Screen,” to “An Offer They Couldn’t Refuse.”
Return to Part 1
December 22, 2008 Bristol, England - On December 17, 2008, Earthfiles reported an interview with Robbie Graham about a November 14, 2008, co-authored article in Britain’s The Guardian that was the first part of a three-part series. Robbie’s writing partner is Matthew Alford, Ph.D., who earned his degree in 2008, from the University of Bath focused on Film and Propaganda. Matthew is now a lecturer in film at the University of Bristol’s Department of Drama: Theater, Film and Television. His Ph.D. thesis was entitled, “A Propaganda Model for Hollywood?
Representations of American Foreign Policy in Contemporary Films.” Matthew is also author of a forthcoming book, Projecting Power: American Foreign Policy and the Hollywood Propaganda System.
Matthew Alford, Ph.D., Lecturer in Film, Dept. of Drama:
Theater, Film and Television, Univ. of Bristol, Bristol, in South West England.
Matthew Alford, Ph.D., Lecturer in Film, Dept. of Drama: Theater, Film and Television, University of Bristol, Bristol, in South West England: “My work focuses on the relationship between Washington, D. C. and Hollywood and looks at what kind of political content is in films produced from 1990 to the present day, plus some historic classics, and what kind of content they have had politically. I found that all of the films I researched pretty much without exception presented American foreign policy in very benign terms, presenting America as a good power and also as an entity that used force appropriately. When America did use force, it was effective and lead to peace, democracy and security. So, that was my initial research looking at all these films about what kind of content they had.
Then I asked myself what would cause that? Why is Hollywood so de-radicalized in its approach to American foreign policy. Why is it basically very positive about American power. I found a lot of things about American society and western society in general that meant these films would be de-radicalized. One of those is the influence of the Department of Defense, the CIA and other agencies.
WHAT IS STRONGEST EVIDENCE YOU HAVE FOUND OF CIA INFLUENCE THROUGH HOLLYWOOD FILMS?
The strongest evidence that the CIA influences Hollywood films is from its own records and its own admission. The CIA has been very clear that since 1996, it set up its own official entertainment industry liaison, the CIA’s own office that contacts and maintains relationships with Hollywood producers. Whenever different films are made, filmmakers often come to the CIA and ask for advice. That’s just clear. It’s even clear in a CIA website search of CIA and Hollywood.
The way the CIA presents that, though, is to say, ‘We’re just providing advice and nothing more.’ For instance, on the film, Meet the Parents with Robert De Niro, the CIA can say, ‘We showed them how a lie detector works for that particular scene in the film.’ That’s a benign example.
But we can make a pretty good guess from history that the CIA’s relationship with Hollywood that the CIA is making rather more serious alterations, changes and requests in movies. For instance, we have a film like Animal Farm from the 1950s, which was backed by the CIA and provided with at least several hundred thousand dollars by the CIA and distributed by the U. S. Information Agency (USIA), which is closely connected to the CIA. That film was anti-Communist propaganda. That comes from lots of research on the internal record. That’s also the case with the original George Orwell 1984 film, again from the mid-1950s.
Also, the original film of The Quiet American from 1958. Edward Lansdale, a famed CIA operative whose life was a model for the CIA character in the film, contacted the film’s director by letter and asked for certain changes to be made, which were then done. In the feature film version, because of Edward Lansdale’s intervention, his character is changed from being a manufacturer of plastic explosives, which he distributes in order to stoke up a fascist force in Indochina, to being a manufacturer of plastic children’s toys. This completely contradicted the anti-war intent of Graham Greene’s original novel. That’s why Greene denounced the film as propaganda.
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THE RESPONSE DELAY INDICATES THE SUBJECTS YOU ARE INQUIRING ABOUT ARE HOT BUTTONS IN THE FOIA SYSTEM?
Yes, that would be an inference we could make. It does seem suspicious that we haven’t received any reply about these FOIA requests, particularly the really simple ones. I am so frustrated that the CIA press department has not got back to me at all and I ended up writing a one-line letter just saying, ‘Could you tell me how many people work in your office?’ I figured that’s the kind of question and answer they can’t actually say, ‘This is taking a long time to find the answer to your inquiry because there are so many documents to go through.’
All they have to do is count their staff and reply! But I haven’t had any answer to that question either.
So, whether that’s indication of conspiracy or simply that they are not interested in actually being genuine with the Freedom of Information process, I don’t know.
YOU ARE TRYING TO GET A COPY OF THE NASA 20-PAGE LETTER TO STEVEN SPIELBERG, CORRECT?
That’s right. I’ve gotten an automated response from NASA, which said, ‘We’re looking into your inquiry.’ But nothing more has emerged. The delay could simply be a bureaucratic thing. I certainly would not leap to any conclusions at this point that it’s a sign that authorities are covering something up, but it’s certainly a frustration for me, the researcher! At least it shows, I think, they are not that keen on spending a great deal of time and resources on providing information that might show the CIA and NASA worlds in a bad light. That’s not surprising. It’s just the way powerful systems work.
Beyond “The Lies Are Out There”
BEYOND THE GUARDIAN’S NOVEMBER 14, 2008, PUBLICATION OF YOUR DEEP POLITICS OF HOLLYWOOD: PART 1 - SPOOKS AND THE SILVER SCREEN, WHAT ARE YOUR OTHER PARTS 2 AND 3?
The Guardian changed our ‘Spooks’ title to ‘An Offer They Couldn’t Refuse,’ a title Robbie and I don’t completely understand.
Then the next two parts under the overall title, ‘The Deep Politics of Hollywood’ are 2) the UFO focused one, ‘The Lies Are Out There;’ and 3) ‘In the Parents’ Best Interests’ about Hollywood as a system where the power is in the parent companies that own Hollywood studios. In the popular imagination, when we think of Hollywood, we think of 20th Century Fox, Universal, MGM and so on. We think of those as being the studios that control the movie-making. But in this modern world, each of those studios has a corporate owner that is a multi-billion dollar corporation with a vast array of interests.
So, what Robbie Graham and I asked ourselves: If the parent companies such as Viacom, Disney and so on have other business interests – maybe even selling military arms, for instance – or if the corporations have close relationships with the government of the day, might self-interest skew the content of any given film in a studio owned by the parent company? In other words, content with an ideological take could be provided by the corporate owners.
Parent Corporations of Hollywood Studios
It’s our theory so far because it’s even harder to get information in documents and memos from a corporation than it is from the CIA, which is at least nominally accountable. Corporations are not accountable to anyone except their shareholders. So, I think we are trying to highlight where there have been Hollywood films that have had a great difficulty being released.
For instance, the film Medium Cool, which was directed by Haskell Wexler in 1969. Wexler had considerable trouble releasing the movie, which was about anti-war protests at the Democratic convention in 1968. Wexler learned a few years later after FOIA was available that on the eve of Medium Cool’s release, the Mayor of Chicago and other Democratic players contacted Gulf and Western - then the parent company of Paramount Studios - that if Medium Cool was released then certain tax benefits and other perks in Gulf and Western’s favor would not happen.
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Part 6: Insights from An Experiencer
with Greys and Blond Humanoids
© 2008 by Linda Moulton Howe
“Past the 2008 presidential election, in the black cube
I saw that things are quite a mess for two or three years. Then something happens
around 2012 and it all goes quiet.” - Arizona Abductee
Return to: Part 1
July 13, 2008 Phoenix, Arizona -
Interview with William continued:
“SO WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO HAPPEN THE REST OF 2008 AND 2009 AND BEYOND?
I think after the next President comes into the U. S., that’s when things are going to change dramatically. That president will step in and join the fight on the Israeli side. Whoever Israel is up against is a common enemy.
DOES THE UNITED STATES LAUNCH NUCLEAR MISSILES?
I don’t think so, not from here. But I think things happen here that are not good.
EXPLOSIONS BY ENEMY TERRORISTS THAT ARE BLOWING THINGS UP?
Right.
THEN MARTIAL LAW GETS PUT IN PLACE? DID YOU SEE ANY FURTHER INTO THE FUTURE?
Past the 2008 presidential election, in the black cube I saw that things are quite a mess for two or three years. Then something happens around 2012 and it all goes quiet.
WHAT WERE YOU SEEING IN THE BLACK CUBE?
I saw lots of people without homes. That’s happening now, but I saw a lot of people without homes. Like you would expect to see people living in tent cities, but they weren’t tents even. I saw a lot of people in a very desperate situation.
Then I saw others who were not. And these people were being well cared for and taken care of. It was like society had divided into two separate cultures and there were those in the United States living more like in a Third World country who didn’t have the things they need. And then, there was the upper class that had all the things they needed. The two types of social classes were not allowed to mingle. They were kept apart.
THAT WOULD OCCUR BY WHAT YEAR, DO YOU THINK?
By late 2010.
International Airline Travel Ends?
The other thing I saw was that travel between countries pretty much came to a stop. You don’t do it unless you have a reason to. There were several countries that polarized themselves against ours and did not want us there. So, the list of places you could go to had actually diminished and where you could go, it might not be safe for you to be there.
Disease Spreads Globally?
I saw there were diseases and these diseases were very fast. It diminished the populations of the poor and hit some of the rich as well.
WHAT KIND OF DISEASE?
I don’t know except like the flu. When there have been reports about the bird flu, I thought maybe that’s what this was that I had seen. But I don’t know.
[ Editor’s Note: World Health Organization (W.H.O.) first reported in September 1996 a “highly pathogenic H5N1 avian virus was isolated from a farm goose in Guangdong Province, China. By 1997, H5N1 outbreaks were reported in poultry farms and live animal markets in Hong Kong, China.”
Then came disturbing news that there were “human infections with avian influenza in Hong Kong. Altogether, 18 cases (6 fatal) were reported in the first known instance of human infection by the H5N1 virus.” The implication was that the avian flu virus was able to jump from animals to humans. The biggest fear was that the virus would mutate to go from human-to-human in a worldwide pandemic equivalent to the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic that killed millions of people around the world.
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WHAT HAPPENS FOR EVERYTHING TO GO QUIET? WHAT DID YOU SEE IN THE BLACK CUBE?
It’s like everything became exhausted. I don’t know if these diseases caused such a problem and that’s why there were so few people? I don’t know if something happened to the world’s food supply? But the conflict increased to an intense point and then it just all went quiet. There were places were there were people, but they weren’t worried, they weren’t hurting. They were fine. And these were places that were quite remote. The places where the cities were looked a mess. But in the other places where it was quiet, it was very nice.
2012 to 2052
Then the world started changing again. There were issues that took place over the next forty years or so. Then after that, it seems like the chaos works itself out and goes even quieter all over the world – there weren’t as many people or problems. There was an understanding that we humans should never do this again. And it was remembered that way.
DID YOU SEE ANY DISCS, CIGARS OR TRIANGLES OR OTHER AERIAL CRAFT IN THE SKIES OF THE WORLD INSIDE THE BLACK CUBE?
No, I never saw any of those. No UFOs, nothing.
SO FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, YOU DON’T THINK THAT ZO OR ANYBODY IS GOING TO INTERRUPT, INTERFERE WITH DEVASTATING NUCLEAR CHAOS AND STOP IT BEFORE IT BEGINS?
The alien interference was something I was really concerned about because I was wondering if they would actually do something to keep this from occurring. Apparently, there is chaos going on in the other side of this imaginary fence (from Earth) that Zo’s people are on. There are those wanting to let this thing play out the way that it will and there are those who want to keep it from happening. And the ones that are wanting to let it play out are saying, ‘If we don’t let it play itself out now, it will just keep going this way.’
Then there are the others that say if we can just keep the collapse at bay as long as we can, humans will evolve to a point where they will understand this is not how you conduct yourself in a planetary society.
So, you’ve got that conflict going on and I don’t know that one side is more right than the other. But I know there is that conflict out there. It’s not so much heated arguments as much as the rationale between one group versus another.
What is the Tau Ceti Vested Interest in Earth?
IF ZO IS FROM TAU CETI AND HAS SOME VESTED INTEREST IN THE EARTH, WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT VESTED INTEREST IS IN THE EARTH?
Apparently we humans and Zo’s people come from the same place. They just want us to catch up so we can re-establish the relationship that we used to have as two planetary civilizations.
Other Non-Human Species Using Earth
WHAT IS THE TAU CETI PERSPECTIVE ON THE GREYS AND THE STANDING UP LIZARDS?
They told me and showed me the standing up lizard people are dangerous. They are very smart and to be very careful around them. As far as the greys go, they showed me two or three different versions of them. The ones that are more bluish-white looking are the ones the Tau Cetians work with. They have an affiliation, like they are friends.
THE BLUISH-WHITE WOULD BE TALL, SHORT, WHAT?
The bluish-white are two sizes. Some of them are tall and some of them are short – short meaning 4-feet-tall roughly. The tall ones are 6 feet tall.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE THE TALL BLUE-WHITES COME FROM?
They come from the same area of stars that Tau Ceti is in. I’m thinking it was Epsilon Eridani that they told me these folks come from. But I don’t know absolutely. I know there are not any humans on Epsilon Eridani and I’m pretty sure that’s where the tall and short bluish-white beings originate.
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THE SANDY-HAIRED TAU CETIANS ARE ALLIED WITH THE EPSILON ERIDANIS. WHAT MORE DID ZO SHARE ABOUT WHY THE STANDING UP LIZARDS ARE DANGEROUS?
He just said they would eat us. They would enslave us, use us for whatever tasks they might need us for. They have no perception of what it means to be hurt, the way we humans experience pain and mistreatment and that they would eat us. They would actually farm to collect babies to eat them.
DID HE SHOW YOU ANY PICTURES?
Yeah, because apparently they have done this in other parts of the galaxy.
THAT COULD EXPLAIN SOME OF THE HUMAN ABDUCTION DRAWINGS OF ALL THE FOETUSES INSIDE OF CONTAINERS?
That’s what came to mind, but there is another thing that’s going on as well because there is another race that’s involved and they are not even affiliated with the lizards. What these others are doing is harvesting from Earth to populate other worlds to do their work for them.
WHICH ONES ARE THEY?
Those are the guys with the little pointy chins that you see on the cover of Whitley Strieber’s book, Communion (© 1986).
THOSE ARE THE STRIEBER GREYS VERSUS THE PEAR-HEADED EXTRATERRESTRIAL BIOLOGIAL ENTITIES, OR EBENS? AND YOU’RE SAYING THE POINTY CHIN ONES ARE INVOLVED WITH ANIMAL MUTILATIONS AND OTHER GENETIC HARVESTS?
There’s also another race that look like black hairy things, but they are pretty damn smart and these guys are scary.
WHAT DO THEY WANT?
The black hairy ones are as advanced as Strieber greys. They are both involved together to harvest and create biospheres on other planets where they can use harvested people to do work. The harvesters adapt the humans to the atmosphere and climate of other planets.
THE HUMANS ARE USED AS SLAVES OR ANDROIDS?
They are still humans with souls, intelligence and ability, but their life span has been restricted and their ability to know more has been completely squelched. And one of the things I was told is that had happened here on Earth before.
We had evolved as a species and started evolving out of that and caused the harvesters to leave. The harvesters left long enough that we humans evolved out of that slave state to a degree and started looking into greater and greater abilities within ourselves.
YOU MEAN THAT THE BLACK HAIRY ONES AND THE GREYS WITH THE POINTED CHINS LEFT THE EARTH FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME?
Yeah, they did. It was apparently quite a long time ago because when they came back, that’s when they had to start using fear tactics to control the human population, to knock the population down so they could then go in and start doing the harvesting activities they had been doing previously.
Zo showed me was that there was a period of time in Europe that mankind had reached a pinnacle and was about to make the next dramatic evolutionary step with science, art and philosophy. That’s another point where the bad ones came in and wiped out the population with the Black Plague and then they went into the churches and started getting everyone rounded up and thinking in a certain direction.
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WHEN YOU SAY ‘THEY,’ YOU MEAN?
The pointed chin greys and the black hairy ones.
SO THEY ARE THE ONES BEHIND THE GREEN FOG AND PLAGUE THAT WIPED OUT A THIRD OF THE EUROPEAN POPULATION IN THE 1300S?
Right, because that was the technological powerhouse of the world at the time and that was about to spread all over the world. Then the plague happened and it went into a very dark time. Then the church became the strength and the power simultaneously and that’s when it all changed because at that point forward, that’s when world domination was starting to take over again.
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If we, as a human species, were to advance past a certain point at that juncture in Earth history, I guess they were afraid we would then see who they really were. They had not made much mystery about the fact they were here.
THESE THEN WERE THE DEVILS OF HISTORY?
Yeah, exactly, and people would wake up to that and then there would be trouble for them. Instead, it was all thrown back into a pit full of myth and weak belief structures.
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