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Fighter jets scrambled after UFO follows plane over Athens: jets were scrambled to intercept a UFO
telegraph.co.uk ^ | 9:30AM GMT 10 Feb 2009 | Matthew Moore

Posted on 02/10/2009 4:03:18 AM PST by JoeProBono

The object was spotted by the pilot of Olympic Airways flight 266 from Athens, and the sighting was corroborated by staff at Athens Airport and a nearby Greek air force base. Pilots of two other passenger jets also reported seeing the body.The eyewitnesses described it as looking like a large star, although it was moving erratically and constantly changing shape.Two fighter jets were sent to investigate the sighting over the Greek capital in November 2007 but the object shot up into the sky and vanished before they could get a clear view.

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To: Quix

Try another link?


501 posted on 04/04/2009 6:52:37 PM PDT by OKSooner ("He's quite mad, you know." - Sean Connery to Honor Blackman in "Goldfinger".)
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To: OKSooner

Not sure what you’re saying.

If you have another link—please go ahead and post it!


502 posted on 04/04/2009 6:55:24 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Sorry. The “Prophecy in the News” link in 497 doesn’t go anywhere. It says “document doesn’t exist on this server”, or such to that effect.


503 posted on 04/04/2009 6:57:33 PM PDT by OKSooner ("He's quite mad, you know." - Sean Connery to Honor Blackman in "Goldfinger".)
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To: OKSooner

HMMMM.

Sorry.

May try and fix another time.

I think I’m bushed and heading to shower and bed early tonight.

If you want to search that site for a link that works and post it, please feel free.

Blessings,


504 posted on 04/04/2009 7:02:18 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
Prophecy in the News:

http://www.prophecyinthenews.com/

505 posted on 04/05/2009 4:46:04 AM PDT by OKSooner ("He's quite mad, you know." - Sean Connery to Honor Blackman in "Goldfinger".)
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To: OKSooner

Thanks for this:

http://www.prophecyinthenews.com/


506 posted on 04/05/2009 6:51:57 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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'UFO phenomenon is real' says Apollo Astronaut Edgar Mitchell on ABC News. Why the cover-up? April 7 2009
507 posted on 04/08/2009 11:11:56 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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'UFO phenomenon is real' says Apollo Astronaut Edgar Mitchell on ABC News.

ROFL!

508 posted on 04/08/2009 11:13:58 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: JoeProBono

Thanks.


509 posted on 04/08/2009 11:17:04 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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GLEANINGS FROM Linda Moulton Howe’s earthfiles.com site. Worthwhile pics are available with the following docs on her site. Some may be already behind the subscriber’s boundary though I think part 3 should be still in the public section.

PART 1

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1542&category=Real+X-Files

PART 2

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1544&category=Real+X-Files

PART 3

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1546&category=Real%20X-Files

Part 1: High Strangeness Files about EBENs

© 2009 by Linda Moulton Howe

 

“Our government's greatest concern is who walks around
on this planet looking human and is not.” 
- U.S. Military Source    

Left and center: Two variations on EBEN “Trilateral Insignia” seen on craft and sketched by eyewitnesses.
One military source said, “Take the middle vertical line out and it will be correct.” Right: Symbol
associated with blond-haired humanoids and said to mean “the merging of two worlds.”


April 1, 2009  Albuquerque, New Mexico -   The content that unfolds in this series of Real X-Files is a summary of my raw file notes between 1983 and 1989 from many sources that have given me similar, and sometimes contradictory, information about the complex and confusing nature of extraterrestrial biological entities, EBENs - an acronym generally used to describe a grey-skinned, four-finger type with large, black eyes or black eye covers.

In March 1983, I signed a development contract with Home Box Office (HBO) to produce an hour documentary entitled, UFOs: The E. T. Factor, going beyond my regional Emmy Award-winning documentary, A Strange Harvest, that was first broadcast May 28, 1980, on the CBS affiliate in Denver, Colorado. What my HBO efforts provoked in government obstruction is detailed in my first book, An Alien Harvest © 1989. By 2009, it seems to me that one of the alleged presidential briefing papers I was shown in 1983 might have been quite accurate in the paragraphs that stated: “These extraterrestrials manipulated DNA in already-evolving primates to create Homo sapiens sapiens.  ... All questions and mysteries about the evolution of Homo sapiens sapiens on this planet have been answered and this project is closed” in Project GARNET.

Since 1983, I have interviewed hundreds of eyewitnesses and experiencers of the phenomenon  who discussed other details about tall and short humanoids with blond or brown or red hair; others describe encounters with tall, “standing up crocodiles or lizards.” To date, the U. S. government maintains a policy of denial in the interest of national security that insists no other life in the cosmos has been detected. My high strangeness files argue otherwise, but those with firsthand knowledge who have spoken to me have done so only off the record and several of those sources have now passed on. The deeper we go in this troubled, revolutionary century, the more important it seems to share information outside the politically acceptable and restricted boundaries.

Howe High Strangeness Files, 1983 - 1989:

In 1949, near Roswell, another saucer-shaped aerial craft crashed containing six non-humans - pilot, leader, couple of scientists and an engineer. MPs investigating site heard a noise in a part of the rather damaged saucer craft and found a live alien entity. The male being was first taken to Kirtland AFB in Albuquerque, New Mexico, where it was kept in a room for several weeks while the U.S. Air Force tried to figure out what to do. During that time, a USAF Colonel who had protected the being at the crash site, learned to communicate telepathically with the entity referred to as “Ebe,” an acronym for extraterrestrial biological entity. Ebe was transferred to Los Alamos National Laboratory (with at least one trip to Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio) while the Colonel remained close for three years from 1949 until June 18, 1952, when Ebe died of unknown causes. The being communicated to the Colonel that in Earth years, his non-human life expectancy was at least 150 years and he had lived only forty years when overtaken by a mysterious illness.

Ebe carried a “communicator” with him - a 12-inch-long rod with coils at the top that allowed telepathic communication with humans. However, military and government authorities were frustrated to discover that telepathic thought transfer to a group of human minds is as variable as the human mind receivers. According to Ebe, in his civilization telepathic communication is instantaneous and the same for all. In illustration below, the long "earrings" were actually described as "silk threads" that came down from head covering near ears that were described as antennae for communicating back to egg-shaped craft one of which landed at Holloman AFB in Alamogordo, New Mexico, on April 25, 1964, I was told, while two other egg-shaped craft hovered defensively or offensively in the air above the landed craft from which a Sumerian-type being with huge beaked nose, reptilian eyes and ropey headdress emerged along with two grey-skinned beings. The large-nosed being carried a rod in its left hand that had a coil at the type used for telepathic communication with the humans at the scene.

Rod communicator with coils on top was depicted as being in the left hand
of a large-nosed alien being who allegedly landed at Holloman AFB in New Mexico,
on April 25, 1964, aboard an egg-shaped craft for a meeting with American military
and at least one scientist. Source is Photo Section of UFOs: Past, Present & Future
© 1974 by Robert Emenegger and Allan Sandler Institutional Films, Inc.
Reprinted with permission in Glimpses of Other Realities, Vol. I:
Facts & Eyewitnesses
© 1993 by Linda Moulton Howe. See Earthfiles Shop.


Ebe was shorter than five feet. Blue-grey skin that changed color with light intensity. Telepathically communicated Ebens come from the Zeta Reticuli binary star system 39.41 light-years from Earth in the constellation Reticulum (the Net). American authorities uncertain what to believe. The distance between the binary stars is much larger than most binary systems and, according to Ebe, there is a solar system orbiting around each star. According to Ebe, tall blond entities inhabit a cold planet in the Zeta Reticuli solar system opposite the warmer Eben solar system planet. The relationship between the two different binary star civilizations is allegedly one of tension, perhaps even war. Ebens are said to be 25,000 years advanced technologically beyond Earth humans.

[ See in Archive:  120705 Earthfiles - “Zeta Reticuli I and II - Binary Home of Extraterrestrial Biological Entities (EBEs or EBENs)?”

IF HUMANS HAVE BEEN GENETICALLY CREATED BY EBENS, IS THERE ANY CONNECTION BETWEEN THE YELLOW EBEN EYES AND THE YELLOW EYES OF THE GREEKS?

Answer unknown. Other details about Eben physiology from variety of sources, none proven:

[QUIX NOTE: I believe this is part of the Biblically warned about GREAT DECEPTION of the END TIMES]

- Flat face. No nose, only holes. The entities can smell.
- No lips - only small straight line where humans would expect a mouth.
- Small teeth - eat Earth vegetables?
- Egg-shaped head with no hair at all.
- Ears are only holes with slightly raised tissue around holes on either side of head.
- Neck and vertebrae are more pronounced than in humans. In profile, Ebe's back bones stuck out more. Ebe could rotate his head much further around his thin neck than a human could.
- Jaw fused immobile whereas human lower jaw moves up and down.
- Ebe's heart and lung system were same organ.
- Simple bag for stomach. Excretion process not entirely clear, except some excretion through skin surface.
- Eben hands have four long, thin fingers and no opposable thumb. Similar to the E. T. in Spielberg's feature movie, the Eben finger joints can extend another inch longer.
- Eben feet are pointed with nail-like substance at end, no separate toes. Like pointed hooves?  (Ice cream cone-shaped prints were found at one of the cattle mutilation sites near Dulce, New Mexico, back in the 1970s.)
- Blood related to chlorophyll?
- No genitals in some - biological androids/clones programmed to do work on Earth?

WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TALL BLOND BEINGS AND THE GREY-SKINNED EBENS?

There was a “star war” battle between the Talls and Shorts that lasted 300 Earth years. But when in Earth's timeline? Not known. The Talls can be aggressive and control little robot/androids of the Judy Doraty, Betty Andreasson and other abduction experiences.

Some intel and military authorities consider the Ebens to be peace-loving, not emotional, who do not understand the need for war and were very disappointed in the Vietnam war days. There was intense UFO focus on Vietnam. The Ebens have communicated that they intend to prevent nuclear war on Earth no matter what. Other military and intel authorities don't trust the Ebens, say they have lied. But lied about what?

Some how the Ebens and Talls came to a truce in their war and are now both on Earth seeming to ignore each other, tolerate each other? One military source says there is no known communication between the two alien groups - even though both alien types are supposed to be working with the U. S. to trade off technology for bases from which operations on Earth can be conducted without interference, including the mutilation of animals by the Talls? Greys? Reptiles? All of them? Exact perpetrators not clear and neither is precise reason/s for harvest of animal tissues, blood and fluids. Government's Project Sigma operates 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, listening to and recording various frequencies linked to non-human aerial craft.

Between 1949 and his unexpected death in 1952, Ebe shared scientific, cultural and historical material contained in at least 18 volumes buried somewhere in the MJ-12 group - - National Security Council (NSC)? National Security Agency (NSA)? Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA)? Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)? Pentagon?

One 1983 military source says volumes of information from Ebens now underground Kirtland AFB in Albuquerque, New Mexico, moved from a classified location in Washington, D. C. between 1979 and 1983. Stealth bomber technology is based on Eben technology - cloaking, radar-invisibility.

ARE THE EBENS AND/OR OTHER NON-HUMAN TYPES ALSO GIVING SAME TECHNOLOGIES TO SOVIET UNION OR OTHER COUNTRIES?

No one seems to know the truth because humans don't know how to trust telepathic information from extraterrestrials.

COWBOYS IN COLORADO ONCE REPORTED SEEING GREY-SKINNED BEINGS FLOAT OVER A CORRAL FENCE WHERE A MUTILATED COW WAS FOUND. THEN IN THE MIDWEST, RANCHERS SAW BLOND-HAIRED BEINGS DOWN WITH A MUTILATED COW. WHY WOULD BOTH ALIEN SPECIES BE HARVESTING TISSUES FROM EARTH ANIMALS?

The Tall ones are using DNA from Earth animals to build humanoids to carry out work back on their home planet.

ARE THE HUMANOIDS BEING MADE BY THE TALLS THE 3-FOOT-TALL LITTLE GREY ANDROIDS WITH THE BIG BLACK EYES? DO BOTH EBENS AND TALLS MAKE SIMILAR-LOOKING ANDROIDS TO DO DIFFERENT WORK ON EARTH?

Mixed answers, both yes and no. Human abductees have described and sketched tall beings with small, grey-skinned androids that have big, black eyes. Grey entities also seem to have small, grey-skinned types with big, black eyes.

One military source said, “Our government's greatest concern is who walks around on this planet looking human and is not.” Supposedly U. S. has been using an infrared or other technology to distinguish Homo sapiens sapiens from exotic non-humans camouflaged in human bodies.

IS THERE POTENTIAL FOR HOMO SAPIENS SLAVERY ON THIS PLANET?

The same military source told me that the "nose probes" and back of the neck "hairline implants" have long been a government concern because the implication is the devices are used to monitor and control human behavior.

ARE THE GREY EBENS ALLIED WITH HUMANITY? WOULD THEY GO TO WAR AGAIN WITH THE TALL ONES OR REPTILIANS TO PREVENT ABUSE OF HUMANS? OR DO THE EBENS USE EARTH LIFE FOR THEIR OWN AGENDAS AS MUCH AS THE TALLS AND THE REPTILIAN HUMANOIDS?

Not answered.”

MORE GLEANINGS TO FOLLOW in the next few posts.


510 posted on 04/09/2009 8:57:29 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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More info related to part 1:

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Part 1: High Strangeness Files about EBENs

© 2009 by Linda Moulton Howe

 

“Our government's greatest concern is who walks around
on this planet looking human and is not.” 
- U.S. Military Source    

 

   
Left and center: Two variations on EBEN “Trilateral Insignia” seen on craft and sketched by eyewitnesses.
One military source said, “Take the middle vertical line out and it will be correct.” Right: Symbol
associated with blond-haired humanoids and said to mean “the merging of two worlds.”


April 1, 2009  Albuquerque, New Mexico -   The content that unfolds in this series of Real X-Files is a summary of my raw file notes between 1983 and 1989 from many sources that have given me similar, and sometimes contradictory, information about the complex and confusing nature of extraterrestrial biological entities, EBENs - an acronym generally used to describe a grey-skinned, four-finger type with large, black eyes or black eye covers.

In March 1983, I signed a development contract with Home Box Office (HBO) to produce an hour documentary entitled, UFOs: The E. T. Factor, going beyond my regional Emmy Award-winning documentary, A Strange Harvest, that was first broadcast May 28, 1980, on the CBS affiliate in Denver, Colorado. What my HBO efforts provoked in government obstruction is detailed in my first book, An Alien Harvest © 1989. By 2009, it seems to me that one of the alleged presidential briefing papers I was shown in 1983 might have been quite accurate in the paragraphs that stated: “These extraterrestrials manipulated DNA in already-evolving primates to create Homo sapiens sapiens.  ... All questions and mysteries about the evolution of Homo sapiens sapiens on this planet have been answered and this project is closed” in Project GARNET.

Since 1983, I have interviewed hundreds of eyewitnesses and experiencers of the phenomenon  who discussed other details about tall and short humanoids with blond or brown or red hair; others describe encounters with tall, “standing up crocodiles or lizards.” To date, the U. S. government maintains a policy of denial in the interest of national security that insists no other life in the cosmos has been detected. My high strangeness files argue otherwise, but those with firsthand knowledge who have spoken to me have done so only off the record and several of those sources have now passed on. The deeper we go in this troubled, revolutionary century, the more important it seems to share information outside the politically acceptable and restricted boundaries.

Howe High Strangeness Files, 1983 - 1989:

In 1949, near Roswell, another saucer-shaped aerial craft crashed containing six non-humans - pilot, leader, couple of scientists and an engineer. MPs investigating site heard a noise in a part of the rather damaged saucer craft and found a live alien entity. The male being was first taken to Kirtland AFB in Albuquerque, New Mexico, where it was kept in a room for several weeks while the U.S. Air Force tried to figure out what to do. During that time, a USAF Colonel who had protected the being at the crash site, learned to communicate telepathically with the entity referred to as “Ebe,” an acronym for extraterrestrial biological entity. Ebe was transferred to Los Alamos National Laboratory (with at least one trip to Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio) while the Colonel remained close for three years from 1949 until June 18, 1952, when Ebe died of unknown causes. The being communicated to the Colonel that in Earth years, his non-human life expectancy was at least 150 years and he had lived only forty years when overtaken by a mysterious illness.

Ebe carried a “communicator” with him - a 12-inch-long rod with coils at the top that allowed telepathic communication with humans. However, military and government authorities were frustrated to discover that telepathic thought transfer to a group of human minds is as variable as the human mind receivers. According to Ebe, in his civilization telepathic communication is instantaneous and the same for all. In illustration below, the long "earrings" were actually described as "silk threads" that came down from head covering near ears that were described as antennae for communicating back to egg-shaped craft one of which landed at Holloman AFB in Alamogordo, New Mexico, on April 25, 1964, I was told, while two other egg-shaped craft hovered defensively or offensively in the air above the landed craft from which a Sumerian-type being with huge beaked nose, reptilian eyes and ropey headdress emerged along with two grey-skinned beings. The large-nosed being carried a rod in its left hand that had a coil at the type used for telepathic communication with the humans at the scene.


Rod communicator with coils on top was depicted as being in the left hand
of a large-nosed alien being who allegedly landed at Holloman AFB in New Mexico,
on April 25, 1964, aboard an egg-shaped craft for a meeting with American military
and at least one scientist. Source is Photo Section of UFOs: Past, Present & Future
© 1974 by Robert Emenegger and Allan Sandler Institutional Films, Inc.
Reprinted with permission in Glimpses of Other Realities, Vol. I:
Facts & Eyewitnesses
© 1993 by Linda Moulton Howe. See Earthfiles Shop.


Ebe was shorter than five feet. Blue-grey skin that changed color with light intensity. Telepathically communicated Ebens come from the Zeta Reticuli binary star system 39.41 light-years from Earth in the constellation Reticulum (the Net). American authorities uncertain what to believe. The distance between the binary stars is much larger than most binary systems and, according to Ebe, there is a solar system orbiting around each star. According to Ebe, tall blond entities inhabit a cold planet in the Zeta Reticuli solar system opposite the warmer Eben solar system planet. The relationship between the two different binary star civilizations is allegedly one of tension, perhaps even war. Ebens are said to be 25,000 years advanced technologically beyond Earth humans.

[ See in Archive:  120705 Earthfiles - “Zeta Reticuli I and II - Binary Home of Extraterrestrial Biological Entities (EBEs or EBENs)?”

 
 

Above: Wide view of Zeta Reticuli I and II binary star system 39.41 light-years
from Earth. Zeta Reticuli 1 is a G 3/5 V Spectral Type sun and Zeta
Reticuli 2 is a G2 V Spectral Type. Below: Close-up of the binary stars.
Photographs courtesy NASA.

 



Sixteen stars, including our Sun, are all similar Spectral Class G, which could support life.
Our Sun is at the edge of the group with 82 Eridani, Gliese 86 and Zeta Reticuli (binary) near
the central region. The arrows indicate the distance in light-years between suns. The numbers
in parentheses indicate distance from our Sun. Map from Astronomy, December 1974.


According to Ebe, his planet in the Zeta Reticuli binary system has various degrees of brightness without total darkness. The Eben eyes are supposed to have a bright yellow iris that is vertical like a cat or reptile with three lids that provide variable thickness over the eyes, depending upon brightness of light. Supposedly one pair of lids moves across the eyes horizontally, not vertically as human lids open and shut.

Another group of tall blond and perhaps tall red-haired entities are described as inhabiting a planet orbiting the star Tau Ceti.

[ Editor's Note:  Wikipedia - Tau Ceti is a 3rd-magnitude star in the constellation Reticulum that is similar to the Sun in mass and spectral type. At 11.9 light-years from Earth, it is a relatively close star. Tau Ceti is “metal-deficient” and so it is thought to be less likely to host rocky planets. Observations have detected more than 10 times as much dust surrounding Tau Ceti as is present in the Solar System. The star appears stable, with little stellar variation.

No companions have yet been detected around Tau Ceti through astrometric or radial velocity measurements, but given current search refinement this only excludes substellar companions such as large brown dwarfs. Because of the debris disk, any planet orbiting Tau Ceti would face far more impact events than the Earth. Despite this hurdle to habitability, its solar analog (Sun-like) characteristics have led to widespread interest in the star. It has been consistently listed as a target for Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence (SETI) searches, given its stability and similarity to Earth's Sun.

Separated by 310 seconds (a bit over five minutes) of arc (0.09 degrees), the sixth magnitude Zeta-1 keeps exact pace with the somewhat brighter fifth magnitude Zeta-2, showing that they are a real gravitational pair (but so far apart that no orbit is detectable). Zeta-1 is listed as a G3-5 dwarf, Zeta-2 as very Sun-like G2. Close to us, Zeta Reticuli 1 and 2 are only 39.5 light-years away. Zeta-2 shines with luminosity almost exactly as our Sun's solar luminosity, while Zeta-1 comes in at 0.9 Suns, which yield respective radii of 0.9 and 1.0 times solar and subsolar masses of 0.9 and 0.96 solar masses. Given the angular separation and distance, the two are at least 3750 Astronomical Units apart, which with the total system mass of 1.86 solar, gives an orbital period of at least 170,000 years.]

 

IF HUMANS HAVE BEEN GENETICALLY CREATED BY EBENS, IS THERE ANY CONNECTION BETWEEN THE YELLOW EBEN EYES AND THE YELLOW EYES OF THE GREEKS?

Answer unknown. Other details about Eben physiology from variety of sources, none proven:

- Flat face. No nose, only holes. The entities can smell.
- No lips - only small straight line where humans would expect a mouth.
- Small teeth - eat Earth vegetables?
- Egg-shaped head with no hair at all.
- Ears are only holes with slightly raised tissue around holes on either side of head.
- Neck and vertebrae are more pronounced than in humans. In profile, Ebe's back bones stuck out more. Ebe could rotate his head much further around his thin neck than a human could.
- Jaw fused immobile whereas human lower jaw moves up and down.
- Ebe's heart and lung system were same organ.
- Simple bag for stomach. Excretion process not entirely clear, except some excretion through skin surface.
- Eben hands have four long, thin fingers and no opposable thumb. Similar to the E. T. in Spielberg's feature movie, the Eben finger joints can extend another inch longer.
- Eben feet are pointed with nail-like substance at end, no separate toes. Like pointed hooves?  (Ice cream cone-shaped prints were found at one of the cattle mutilation sites near Dulce, New Mexico, back in the 1970s.)
- Blood related to chlorophyll?
- No genitals in some - biological androids/clones programmed to do work on Earth?

WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TALL BLOND BEINGS AND THE GREY-SKINNED EBENS?

There was a “star war” battle between the Talls and Shorts that lasted 300 Earth years. But when in Earth's timeline? Not known. The Talls can be aggressive and control little robot/androids of the Judy Doraty, Betty Andreasson and other abduction experiences.

Some intel and military authorities consider the Ebens to be peace-loving, not emotional, who do not understand the need for war and were very disappointed in the Vietnam war days. There was intense UFO focus on Vietnam. The Ebens have communicated that they intend to prevent nuclear war on Earth no matter what. Other military and intel authorities don't trust the Ebens, say they have lied. But lied about what?

Some how the Ebens and Talls came to a truce in their war and are now both on Earth seeming to ignore each other, tolerate each other? One military source says there is no known communication between the two alien groups - even though both alien types are supposed to be working with the U. S. to trade off technology for bases from which operations on Earth can be conducted without interference, including the mutilation of animals by the Talls? Greys? Reptiles? All of them? Exact perpetrators not clear and neither is precise reason/s for harvest of animal tissues, blood and fluids. Government's Project Sigma operates 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, listening to and recording various frequencies linked to non-human aerial craft.

Between 1949 and his unexpected death in 1952, Ebe shared scientific, cultural and historical material contained in at least 18 volumes buried somewhere in the MJ-12 group - - National Security Council (NSC)? National Security Agency (NSA)? Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA)? Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)? Pentagon?

One 1983 military source says volumes of information from Ebens now underground Kirtland AFB in Albuquerque, New Mexico, moved from a classified location in Washington, D. C. between 1979 and 1983. Stealth bomber technology is based on Eben technology - cloaking, radar-invisibility.

ARE THE EBENS AND/OR OTHER NON-HUMAN TYPES ALSO GIVING SAME TECHNOLOGIES TO SOVIET UNION OR OTHER COUNTRIES?

No one seems to know the truth because humans don't know how to trust telepathic information from extraterrestrials.

COWBOYS IN COLORADO ONCE REPORTED SEEING GREY-SKINNED BEINGS FLOAT OVER A CORRAL FENCE WHERE A MUTILATED COW WAS FOUND. THEN IN THE MIDWEST, RANCHERS SAW BLOND-HAIRED BEINGS DOWN WITH A MUTILATED COW. WHY WOULD BOTH ALIEN SPECIES BE HARVESTING TISSUES FROM EARTH ANIMALS?

The Tall ones are using DNA from Earth animals to build humanoids to carry out work back on their home planet.

ARE THE HUMANOIDS BEING MADE BY THE TALLS THE 3-FOOT-TALL LITTLE GREY ANDROIDS WITH THE BIG BLACK EYES? DO BOTH EBENS AND TALLS MAKE SIMILAR-LOOKING ANDROIDS TO DO DIFFERENT WORK ON EARTH?

Mixed answers, both yes and no. Human abductees have described and sketched tall beings with small, grey-skinned androids that have big, black eyes. Grey entities also seem to have small, grey-skinned types with big, black eyes.

One military source said, “Our government's greatest concern is who walks around on this planet looking human and is not.” Supposedly U. S. has been using an infrared or other technology to distinguish Homo sapiens sapiens from exotic non-humans camouflaged in human bodies.

IS THERE POTENTIAL FOR HOMO SAPIENS SLAVERY ON THIS PLANET?

The same military source told me that the "nose probes" and back of the neck "hairline implants" have long been a government concern because the implication is the devices are used to monitor and control human behavior.

ARE THE GREY EBENS ALLIED WITH HUMANITY? WOULD THEY GO TO WAR AGAIN WITH THE TALL ONES OR REPTILIANS TO PREVENT ABUSE OF HUMANS? OR DO THE EBENS USE EARTH LIFE FOR THEIR OWN AGENDAS AS MUCH AS THE TALLS AND THE REPTILIAN HUMANOIDS?

Not answered.”

 

Continued in Part 2


More Information:

For further reports about unidentified flying objects and entities as well as mysterious aerial lights, please see my books:  An Alien Harvest and the 2-volume Glimpses of Other Realities and my documentaries A Strange Harvest and Strange Harvests 1993 now available in DVD format in the Earthfiles Shop.

Also, see Earthfiles Archive for dozens of extraterrestrial biological entity case studies from 1999 to 2009. You can do a search on those subjects for list of archived reports such as:

• 11/21/2008 — Colorado State Patrol Officer Encountered UFO and “Human” Stranger
• 10/30/2008 — More Encounters with Glowing Humanoids, Green Orbs, Strange Aerial Lights and “Thunderbirds”
• 10/10/2008 — Part 1: Two Pennsylvania Hunters Encountered Strange Lights and Lime Green, Glowing Humanoid on Oct. 4
• 08/26/2008 — Update: Earthfiles Viewer Comments About UFOs and 14th Century Black Death
• 08/22/2008 — UFOs and 14th Century Black Death

• 02/22/2008 — Updated: Three Eyewitnesses in Selden, Texas, Saw Two, Large Rectangles of “White Flames” in Sky
• 02/22/2008 — Abductee Jim Sparks Comments On Alien Symbol Technology
• 02/14/2008 — Update: Mysterious Symbols Projected in Night Sky by Aerial Disc Near Stephenville, Texas, Local Airport
• 02/08/2008 — Law Officers Describe Unidentified Shape-Shifting Aerial Craft in Stephenville, Texas, Region
• 01/28/2008 — Updated 01-28-08: Viewer Letters About Aerial Craft and Military Flyovers Above Dublin, Stephenville and Selden, Texas
• 01/24/2008 — Part 17, Final: In League With A UFO, Interview with Lou Baldin
• 01/18/2008 — Updated: Huge Aerial Craft Over Dublin, Texas, “Longer Than 3 Football Fields"
• 08/31/2007 — Part 2: Betty and Barney Hill: Captured!
• 08/30/2007 — Part 1: Military Insiders Comment About Zeta Reticuli and EBENs
• 09/04/2006 — Part 1: "Alphonso Lorenzo" - Military Visitor to Another Planet?
• 12/17/2005 — Sirius's Companion Star, Sirius B, Finally "Weighed"
• 12/07/2005 — Zeta Reticuli I and II - Binary Home of Extraterrestrial Biological Entities?
• 10/05/2002 — Part 1 - Two Scientists Describe An Extraterrestrial Biological Entity Called "J-Rod"


Websites:

Zeta Reticuli:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeta_Reticuli

Tau Ceti:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tau_Ceti

Astronomy Magazine: http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx

Majestic Twelve:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majestic_12

Majestic-12 Documents:  http://www.majesticdocuments.com

Presidential UFO Information:  http://www.presidentialufo.com/

Richard Nixon, Jackie Gleason and UFOs:  http://www.presidentialufo.com/richardm.htm

Stephenville Lights Website:  http://www.stephenvillelights.com/

UFO Casebook:   http://www.ufocasebook.com/

NUFORC:   http://www.nuforc.org/

Part 2: High Strangeness Files about EBENs

© 2009 by Linda Moulton Howe

 

“We made you. We put you here. But you have to live it.” 
- Ebe, Los Alamos, New Mexico

Return to Part 1

April 5, 2009  Albuquerque, New Mexico -  Continuing in Part 2 with Linda Moulton Howe's 1983 to 1987 High Strangeness Files about EBENs.

From Linda Moulton Howe's High Strangeness EBEN files, 1983 - 1987.

EBEN CLOTHES:  They don't wear any.They have a thick hide of two layers, which changes color and temperature in varying light intensities. One photo in USAF files shows Ebe (1949 retrieval?) in a human male's dress suit and tie, apparently USAF's effort to make Ebe appear more normal for communication with visiting scientists and government agents.

SLEEP:  EBENs start sleeping in a sitting position as if in meditation and then lie back to sleep deeply for four to five hours. Allegedly on their home planet orbiting one of the Zeta Reticuli binary suns, their normal day is 30 hours.

HOUSING:  EBENs live in “pueblos” and in a desert-like atmosphere. There are rivers and plants, but mostly arid. Ebe was afraid of Earth's oceans.

FOOD:  EBENs eat mostly vegetables and fruits. Ebe could not digest meat or most fats, which made Ebe sick. But the USAF officer who stayed with Ebe, mostly at Kirtland AFB and in Los Alamos National Lab, said Ebe's favorite Earth food was strawberry ice cream. Is that deliberately planted and seemingly ridiculous misinformation to track how information spreads through what people from official leaks - either misleading info or real? Ebe also was taken to Wright-Patterson AFB in Ohio and Walker AFB in Roswell, New Mexico.

[ Editor's Note:  Wikipedia - “Walker Air Force Base was the largest Strategic Air Command (SAC) base of the United States Air Force at the time of its closure in 1967. It is located three miles (5 km) south of the central business district of Roswell, a city in Chaves County, New Mexico. From 1941 to 1948, the facility was known as Roswell Army Air Field. It is also known for the Roswell UFO incident, an event that supposedly happened on July 4, 1947. It is alleged that a “flying disk” crashed during a severe thunderstorm near Corona, New Mexico, north of Roswell Army Air Field. ]

ATMOSPHERE:  HOW COULD EBE BREATHE OUR AIR?

At first, Ebe would breathe from a tank containing his planet's atmosphere about every hour. After a while, he did not seem to need it. Adaptation to Earth's atmosphere? Allegedly gas composition of Earth atmosphere and EBEN atmosphere not hugely different. Is that possible?

ARE THE EBENS OUR FOREBEARS?

Ebe said, ‘Yes. We made you. We put you here. But you have to live it.’

Project GARNET:  “All questions and mysteries about the evolution of Homo sapiens sapiens have been answered and this project is closed.”  In alleged briefing paper for an American president shown to me on April 9, 1983, Kirtland Air Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI) by Special Agent Richard C. Doty.

According to the USAF officer who stayed with 1949 retrieved Ebe, the EBENs were astonished by all of Earth's different races. The EBENs claim responsibility for manipulating DNA in already-evolving primates to create standing up hominids on Earth, but the EBENs expected more homogenous Earth humanoids - more like their civilization where everyone looks the same and telepathically think a like. Supposedly, there is no war, no struggle, no money in the EBEN Zeta Reticuli planet - all is programmed and well organized. Ebe communicated difficulty understanding Earth concepts of money and stores.

There are several different versions about timelines of EBEN interaction with Earth. Some insiders say the EBENs first came to Earth before the time of the dinosaurs and were in fact responsible for manipulating DNA to create the dinosaurs. That would be at least 270 million years ago.

Other versions place EBEN first Earth arrival in time for the manipulation of DNA in Neanderthals to create Homo sapiens sapiens, which would be at least 35,000 years ago. Subsequently, there were allegedly other genetic experiments 15,000 and 5,000 years ago such as manipulating DNA in some people selected in Bhutan that became an E. T.-created group of humans transported in disc craft from the Himalayas to the Yucatan Peninsula, Guatemala and surrounding region. That specific E. T.-created human group were what became the Mayans until their sudden disappearance in 850 A. D. [ Medical fact:  Mongolian and Mayan babies at birth sometimes have a blue spot at the base of their spine. ]

Then most controversial of all is the EBEN assertion that their genetic manipulation program of Earth life included the creation “of a being 2,000 years ago to be placed on Earth to teach Homo sapiens not to war, but to love each other.” Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. The “immaculate conception” was EBEN control of matter; i.e. fertilization of human egg inside Mary without sperm. If true, it means there is no patriarchal bloodline for Jesus. Mother Mary would be his only human source.

The U. S. government agents with need-to-know about EBEN/Other issues are afraid that any public disclosure of Christ being created by extraterrestrials to try to homogenize human thinking and make humans less violent would knock Catholics and Christians into a tail spin.

[ Editor's Note: Confusing the issue after the 1983 to 1987 period have been people in the human abduction syndrome who say they have been told the Talls - blond, red and dark-haired - genetically created Christ to cause a time line change for Earth from a catastrophic future to a more peaceful future. So in this hall of mirrors with a quicksand floor that is the UFO phenomenon emerges the peculiar contradiction of two competing? warring? non-human groups both claiming to have genetically produced Christ.]

 

Holloman AFB Incident

Date I was given was April 25, 1964. Three EBEN ships arrived in a deserted area of base. All three were white and egg-shaped. One landed while two others hovered above as if to protect the landed craft. At least three humans were in a greeting party, including the same USAF Captain who became a Colonel and who stayed with Ebe between 1949 and June 18, 1952, when the alien died of unknown causes at Los Alamos National Lab.

IS THIS WHEN THERE WAS AN EXCHANGE OF THE DEAD ALIEN BODIES FROM THE 1949 AND OTHER UFO CRASHES?

Yes. The contact lasted only three hours. Two grey-skinned EBENs stepped out first followed by the taller, beak-nosed non-human with reptilian eyes, ropey headdress and holding the rod communicator in its left hand.

WHAT IS RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN GREY EBENS AND THE SUMERIAN-TYPE ALIEN HOLDING COMMUNICATION ROD?

Sources not certain. Confusion about precisely which non-humans were the “Sumerian gods” that demanded construction of the huge Mesopotamian (modern day Iran and Iraq) ziggurats for periodic sexual intercourse with the fairest female humans at the top of the ziggurats - in a hybrid breeding program?

Anu (An), Mesopotamian sky god wearing ropey headdress and holding rod similar
to illustration below of non-human who allegedly landed at Holloman AFB
in New Mexico. Anu was in a triad of deities with Enlil and Ea (Enki) who argued about
the fate of humans. Anu was the father not only of all the gods, but also of evil
spirits and demons, most prominently the demoness Lamashtu, who preyed
on infants. Source: Encyclopaedia Britannica.

Rod communicator with coils on top was depicted as being in the left hand
of a large-nosed alien being who allegedly landed at Holloman AFB in New Mexico,
on April 25, 1964, aboard an egg-shaped craft for a meeting with American military
and at least one scientist. Source is Photo Section of UFOs: Past, Present & Future
© 1974 by Robert Emenegger and Allan Sandler Institutional Films, Inc.
Reprinted with permission in Glimpses of Other Realities, Vol. I:
Facts & Eyewitnesses
© 1993 by Linda Moulton Howe. See Earthfiles Shop.

 

1955 Hill AFB EBEN Craft Linked
to 1980 Cash-Landrum UFO Encounter

Nine years earlier in 1955 at Hill AFB, Utah, the EBENS allegedly left a “gift” of an alien craft in perfect condition and all systems on and operating. Military and scientific investigators were baffled by “hockey pucks” floating in the air inside the craft as if defying gravity and some how interacting with columns of light generated by “computer” control panels. The panel instruments have symbols most similar to Tibetan script. The panel instruments are activated by touch. To "steer" the craft, you place a hand over a column of light and turn your hand which ever way you want to go. Light is the key to their technology and every different color of light means something significant.

A standard ice hockey puck is black vulcanized rubber,
1 inch (25 mm) thick, 3 in (76 mm) in diameter,
and weighs between 5.5 and 6 ounces (156–170 g). Source Wikipedia.

On December 29, 1981, outside Houston, Texas, the U. S. government was testing the Hill AFB, Utah, craft in which the complex and incomprehensible crystal system was bypassed with a nuclear powered system constructed by human engineers. Allegedly, that night was the third test to see if humans could fly and control the extraterrestrial craft modified with nuclear powered engines when something went wrong and the nuclear device was leaking radiation. According to sources, that is the diamond-shaped craft coming down near the highway in front of the car containing Betty Cash, Vickie Landrum and Colby Landrum, Vickie's 7-year-old grandson on their way home to Dayton, Texas.

[ Editor's Note: Wikipedia - “At about 9.00 p.m., while driving on an isolated two-lane road in dense woods, the witnesses said they observed a light above some trees. They initially thought the light was an airplane approaching Houston Intercontinental Airport (about 35 miles away) and gave it little notice.

A few minutes later on the winding roads, the witnesses saw what they took to be the same light as before, but it was now much closer and very bright. The light, they would claim, came from a huge diamond-shaped object, which hovered at about treetop level. The object's base was expelling flame and emitting significant heat.

Vickie Landrum told Cash to stop the car, fearing they would be burned if they approached any closer. However, Vickie's opinion of the object quickly changed: a born again Christian, she interpreted the object as a sign of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, telling her grandson, ‘That's Jesus. He will not hurt us.’

Anxious, Cash considered turning the car around, but abandoned this idea because the road was too narrow and she presumed the car would get stuck on the dirt shoulders, which were soft from that evening's rains. Cash and Landrum got out of the car to examine the object. Colby was terrified, however, and Vickie Landrum quickly returned to the car to comfort the frantic child. Cash remained outside the car, ‘mesmerized by the bizarre sight.’

The UFO Encyclopedia: The Phenomenon from the Beginning, Volume 1: A-K (second edition) © 1998 by Jerome Clark:  ‘The object, intensely bright and a dull metallic silver, was shaped like a huge upright diamond, about the size of the Dayton water tower, with its top and bottom cut off so that they were flat rather than pointed. Small blue lights ringed the center, and periodically over the next few minutes flames shot out of the bottom, flaring outward, creating the effect of a large cone. Every time the fire dissipated, the UFO floated a few feet downwards toward the road. But when the flames blasted out again, the object rose about the same distance.’


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PART 3

Part 3: High Strangeness Files about EBENs

© 2009 by Linda Moulton Howe


Return to Part 1

April 8, 2009  Albuquerque, New Mexico -  Continuing in Part 3 with Linda Moulton Howe's 1983 to 1987 High Strangeness Files about EBENs.

Military insiders and people in the human abduction syndrome reference large city-sized, EBEN space stations orbiting between Saturn and Uranus and/or Uranus and Neptune. Back in the 1950s, there were at least two large, “mother ships” orbiting Earth. Author and abductee experiencer, Lou Baldin, described details about a huge, complex space city orbiting near Uranus in his second book published in 2008 entitled, A Day With An Extraterrestrial. His first book, In League With A UFO © 1997, has important insights into alien technologies, cloning and genetic manipulation of bodies that look human, but are designed for alien control and monitoring.

A Day With An Extraterrestrial
© 2008 by Lou Baldin. Click to more information.

The EBENS are also supposed to have a constructed base on the back side of the moon. Brian Scott, who interacted with non-humans in the late 1970s, wrote about an alien base inside the moon, alien orbiters monitoring Earth and tall, red-haired, non-humans creating a December 2012 drama that would change the world forever.

Transformation of A Common Man:
The Brian Scott Story © 2003 by James E. Frazier.
Click here for more information.

Scott was in his twenties at first contact in a California desert, but later he contacted Scottish astronomer Duncan Lunan with mathematical code and diagrams given to Scott by the non-humans about the alien lunar base. Lunan recognized information in the mathematical code that related to radio signals from the moon that Lunan was studying. Lunan even challenged Scott as perhaps having stolen some of Lunan's private work about the Earth's moon. Scott insisted he had no idea what the math and diagrams meant and had contacted Lunan only because the non-humans had instructed Scott to contact Duncan Lunan.

Others have had alleged non-human communications that the moon is an alien-engineered object, built to a specific diameter and placed at a specific orbital distance from Earth in order to  produce precise eclipses of the sun and moon. [ See  011103Earthfiles. ]

According to government insiders and people in the human abduction syndrome, there are many non-human bases on Earth inside mountains, underground and literally beneath the bottoms of lakes, rivers and seas. One location repeatedly mentioned in the United States is inside Mount Shasta, California. That is supposed to be a tall blond base, not EBEN. In Albuquerque, New Mexico, there are supposed to be at least two underground facilities trying to monitor non-human fly-overs and intrusions in nuclear facilities: one is beneath Coyote Canyon in the Manzano Mountains east of Kirtland AFB. The other is a building on Kirtland AFB disguised as a technical electronics facility that leads to an underground installation where a National Security Agency (NSA) group manages Project Sigma. Sigma's mission is to communicate when possible with non-human craft and entities.

Sigma is supposed to be what Paul Bennewitz, physicist and owner of Thunder Scientific Laboratory in Albuquerque on the edge of Kirtland AFB stumbled into with his 8mm filming of unidentified aerial objects and monitoring unusual frequencies which he plotted with a computer. Bennewitz and his lab subcontracted on physics projects with Sandia Labs, Phillips Labs, Kirtland AFB and other government-related agencies. Therefore, Paul Bennewitz had scientific credibility, which apparently was considered to be a threat to Project Sigma that had to be protected. So Bennewitz became the target of a government misinformation campaign to discredit him and to physically, mentally and emotionally hurt Bennewitz and his wife that included what Bennewitz thought were microwave frequency attacks that left red marks on their exposed skin.

Other frequently discussed non-human underground facilities in New Mexico are beneath a mountain in Dulce (northern NM) called Archuleta. Supposedly there are at least five underground levels in which humans and non-humans “work together” on at least one upper floor, while the non-humans allegedly have complete control over one or more lower floors for genetic experimentation. Some animal mutilation excisions might end up there for unknown laboratory experimentation?

That relates to the Cimarron case that Paul Bennewitz and APRO took to Leo Sprinkle, Ph.D., for hypnosis. Mother and her son saw humanoids in a pasture with a downed cow that was “screaming.” There was a disc and beam and mother and son were transported from Cimarron region apparently to some place underground near Las Cruces, New Mexico. There, mother saw top of a humanoid head and hand floating in a vat of opaque, red liquid she thought was like blood - maybe a treatment? Maybe nourishment? Mother also developed a vaginal infection that would not grow in a Petri dish and that one doctor tried to defeat with the strongest sulfa drug he could prescribe. Cimarron mother saw Tall Ones, small androids/robots and what she thought were U. S. Air Force dressed humans all underground together.  [ See 040306 Earthfiles and 100308 Earthfiles. ]

Surprising development - a government-connected agent says he saw an x-ray of the Cimarron mother's head that showed a small sphere implanted in base of her brain. Another surprise - the government agent does not link the spherical implants to the EBENs, but to what he calls the “Tall Ones.” He said to me, “There are many of these implanted people who do the bidding of the Tall Ones.” Government's fear: implants are non-human method to control specific humans for reasons unknown.

But that's another frustrating contradiction: in the Cimarron mother's transcript of her hypnosis session with Dr. Leo Sprinkle, she describes at least some of the non-humans handling her this way: “Their eyes are - fill more than one-half of their face. Like empty holes.” [ Page  346, An Alien Harvest © 1989 by Linda Moulton Howe. Contains 33-page Cimarron hypnosis transcript. See: Earthfiles Shop.]

That sounds like the large, black eyes of some of the grey-skinned EBEN appearances. However, maybe it's true there are reptilian eyes with vertical slits underneath black lens coverings? Also, many abductees are convinced the 3-foot-tall grey beings with large, slanted, black eyes are actually androids, biological robots, programmed for specific non-human tasks by Whoever makes the androids. Maybe EBENs and Tall Ones and reptilian humanoids all make the same biological androids - only difference is how each android is programmed for specific work with humans and other Earth life?

There is another specific description by the Cimarron mother as she describe some of the non-human beings that first took her into the round craft. “Boots, like storm trooper boots. They have an insignia on the left; it's pretty. Dark orangish design. I think it's a dark blue background. I don't think we have a color like it. Three lines and a line across the bottom.”
[ Page 356, An Alien Harvest.]  That sounds like the “Trilateral Insignia” attributed to the EBENs by American military and intelligence operatives.

Two variations on EBEN “Trilateral Insignia” seen on craft and sketched by eyewitnesses.
One military source said, “Take the middle vertical line out and it will be correct.”

 

Three Main Non-Human Groups? Three Different Agendas? Or One Multilateral Homo Sapiens Project?

What is the relationship between the EBENs and the Tall Ones and the so-called Reptilians or Lizards? There is so much secrecy and deception by the government and none of the non-humans seem to be straightforward about what their various agendas are - where is anything or anyone to trust for real facts? If the avatars of history are genetic creations with a specific mission in mind for influencing evolving hominids, would human consciousness about non-human interactions with Earth life hurt the alien experiment? If so, secrecy is vital for the government that is running scared and for the non-humans controlling behind the scenes.

Throughout the many abductee voices is the confusing paradox: upcoming will be a global catastrophe, perhaps astronomical event, in which much of Earth life will be destroyed. But if non-humans have been running some kind of genetic hybrid program on this planet since before the time of the dinosaurs, why wouldn't they stop destruction of their alleged experiment/s? One version of a global disaster:  the 1949-retrieved Ebe died on June 18, 1952. Supposedly one hundred years after his death in June 2052, the moon will change its orbit (deliberately controlled by non-humans?) causing massive destruction and deaths on Earth. But the EBENs will rescue many humans before the event. It's another one of the many puzzling apocalyptic/salvation scenarios. Are all the various religious and prophetic scenarios a conditioning program? Keep humans afraid of the Devil and on their knees to God in order to control them for the Unseen, Unknown Experiment that might have to do with where Homo sapiens sapiens souls go at the moment of death?

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QUIX COMMENTARY ON THE ABOVE

I believe most of the above is disinformation aiding the satanic global government’s overt rise to public power.

I believe that CHRISTIANS MUST know Scripture AND KNOW HOW TO HEAR THE STILL SMALL VOICE OF THE LORD . . . AND KNOW THAT ONLY THOSE BEINGS WHICH CONFESS THAT JESUS IS THE CHRIST, CAME IN THE FLESH, DIED FOR OUR SINS, ROSE THE 3RD DAY; IS THE KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS . . . ETC. ARE TO BE THE LEAST BIT TRUSTED.

And Christians not managing to do the above as well as nonChristians will be wholesale on a slippery slope into the enemy’s hands. There will be little to no hope for them eternally.

Just as Jesus’ Name and Blood halt abductions now . . . EARNEST AUTHENTIC CHRISTIANS FULL OF HOLY SPIRIT [OIL IN THEIR LAMPS PER THE 10 VIRGINS PARABLE] . . . WILL DO GREAT EXPLOITS FOR THE KINGDOM.

I believe that reality will be turned virtually every which way imaginable a la the matrix etc. Folks will NEED TO KNOW GOD INTIMATELY just to know which way is up vs down; forward vs backwards etc.

Folks should see from the above scenarios how easy it will be for THE SAME IDIOTS who voted in OThuga as “Christians,” “Roman Catholics” etc. . . . will be deluded enough to fall for whatever the ‘ET SAVIORS’ SPOUT ON CNN.

God have mercy.

WATCH! BE AWAKE AND READY! KNOW GOD! KNOW HIS WORD! WALK IN HIS SPIRIT!

There is NO other choice that makes the least bit of sense.


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ORIGINAL UFO PING LIST PING

Gleanings from ATS:

BRAZIL RELEASES LOTS OF SECRET UFO FILES:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread455566/pg1

SOURCE:

http://www.allnewsweb.com/page6716719.php

Historic disclosure: Brazil’s secret Government UFO files revealed

Michael Cohen m.cohen@allnewsweb.com

In what is a milestone and historic event for Brazilian ufology and for ufologists around the world Brazil’s UFO community has gained access to previously classified top-secret UFO files.

The UFO community headed by the CBU or Commission of Brazilian Ufologists has been fighting for access to these files for a number of years under freedom of information provisions and appears to have emerged from this battle victorious.

The Government has previously released in stages various files on the topic depending on their level of classification but has now agreed to release files, for the purposes of study, on even the most significant and highly classified UFO events, including the famous and most coveted files of all: the ones pertaining to Brazil’s own ‘Roswell’ incident the ‘Varghina affair’ as well as the notorious ‘Official Night of the UFOs’.

On this night, back in May of 1986, twenty UFOs were tracked by radar and chased by six military planes. The then minister of Aviation, Brigadier General Otavio Moreira Lima confirmed the event and later went on record stating that he believed humanity would soon make contact with extraterrestrials.

The minister also stated that Brazil had the right to reveal to its population the reality of the existence of aliens if the need arose without America’s permission. He then went on to make the interesting remark that while many people were ready to accept the idea of aliens many were not ready for this kind of information. More on this incident can be read about here on the CBU website.
The CBU has met with senior representatives of the Air Force on a number of occasions. During those meetings the ufologists were able to see and examine but not study in detail the various top-secret files that were presented by the Air Force, including those regarding the 1986 incident.

Already late last year they gained access to the files pertaining to ‘Operation Prato’, an extensive military investigation into widespread UFO incidents in the Amazon. Villagers alleged that they were being attacked and injured by UFOs and even organised night vigils to protect themselves.

Twenty years after this event the Captain in charge of the operation, Uyrange Nogueira was interviewed by a UFO researcher and admitted to witnessing UFOs and being of the opinion aliens were involved. Three weeks later he was found dead, hung by his belt. More on this remarkable incident can be read about here.

Now the ufologists are working on the details of a working relationship with the Air Force that will allow them to permanently access and utilise even these top-secret files as well as collaborate with the military to understand the UFO phenomena.

Rafael Cury, one of the heads of the CBU recently noted that ‘This represents a coming of age for Brazilian ufology’.

Indeed. With the Air Force releasing its UFO files to ufologists and conceding that they don’t understand what the craft involved are and are happy to co-operate to gain an understanding, this event might be the closest any government has come to disclosure. Ufologists around the world will undoubtedly be filled with optimism by these developments.

CBU Website homepage . . . Portuguese site

http://www.ufo.com.br/textoC.php

1969 AUSTRALIAN REPORT . . . ATS thread:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread454379/pg1

image link for first page:

http://media.abovetopsecret.com/profile_gallery/InfaRedMan/&action=view&id=13139

2nd page:

http://media.abovetopsecret.com/profile_gallery/InfaRedMan/&action=view&id=13137

3rd page:

http://media.abovetopsecret.com/profile_gallery/InfaRedMan/&action=view&id=13136

4th page:

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http://media.abovetopsecret.com/profile_gallery/InfaRedMan/&action=view&id=13133

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http://media.abovetopsecret.com/profile_gallery/InfaRedMan/&action=view&id=13132

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http://media.abovetopsecret.com/profile_gallery/InfaRedMan/&action=view&id=13131


1966 Westall Australian incident:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread447523/pg1

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Pueblo Colo cow mutilation . . . fighters scrambled too?

http://www.chieftain.com/articles/2009/03/25/news/region/doc49c9c77fd52be237541343.txt

Two more cows found mutilated

COURTESY PHOTO/CHUCK ZUKOWSKI — A cow owned by Jim Garren was found mutilated on his ranch near Walsenburg.

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Trinidad and Walsenburg ranchers find dead cow, calf.
By ANTHONYA. MESTAS
THE PUEBLO CHIEFTAIN
Two more Southern Colorado ranchers say they have discovered cows mutilated under strange circumstances.

A cow on a ranch near Walsenburg was found with its udders cut off and a calf on a ranch near Trinidad was found missing the entire center of its body as well as its ears.

A similar mutilation was discovered March 8 on a pasture near the Purgatoire River, just west of the small town of Weston. That cow was found dead by rancher Mike Duran with its udders and reproductive organs surgically removed from its body.

The most recent case happened on Jim Garren’s ranch.

Garren said Tuesday that he last saw his cow alive on Friday afternoon at his spread 12 miles southeast of Walsenburg in Las Animas County. Garren said the next day at around 2:30 p.m. his ranch manager was feeding the herd and noticed his cattle count was off by one. After looking around in areas where cows had grazed previously, Garren said his ranch hand spotted the animal dead under a cedar tree.

“The only thing that we could tell about her was that her udder had been surgically removed. There were no other injuries to that cow,” Garren said.

He said the ground around the cow was never disturbed and there was no trauma to the cow’s head or body.

“We searched and searched and we could not find blood on the ground or on the cow. I just can’t understand how anyone could surgically remove a part from an animal and not spill some blood,” he said.

Garren said that while doing a quick walk around looking for evidence on Saturday, his staff spotted the cow’s newborn calf.

Garren said the calf had to have been born at least 10 hours before the mother cow was killed.

“You know I just can’t explain this. I’ve had animals killed on my ranch by mountain lions before and coyotes, but nothing like this. It is truly strange.

“I don’t see how any human could have possibly done this without leaving footprints or some prints where the cow may have struggled. It looks like she just laid down and died,” Garren said.

Rancher Tom Miller, who runs 80 head of cattle about 14 miles east of Trinidad on U.S. 350, found one of his calves dead near a feed tub on March 17. He found it in an area where cows congregate to eat twice daily.

Miller said that the herd appeared normal the day before in the late afternoon when the animals were being fed by the ranchers. The calf was found the next morning roughly 5 feet from a feed tub laying dead with only its spinal column, head and legs left behind.

“It’s the strangest thing I’ve ever seen,” Miller said.

Miller said the only thing holding the calve’s back legs to the body was the hide.

“I cut the hide and the legs just fell off. All the bones were broken. It was just strange,” Miller said. “An animal just doesn’t clean out a carcass like that in one night. It would take several days to do something like that.”

Miller said about 10 years ago he found another one of his cows mutilated. That cow had its ears, tongue, eyes and reproductive organs removed.

In 1995, Duran said he found a cow that had been mutilated on his property in a similar way.

The mutilations never have been solved.

“I really don’t know what it is. I think maybe it was a UFO. According to the circumstances, that is what it seems like,” Miller said.

Miller said it would be too difficult for a human to take a calf away from its mother cow.

“The cows are too protective. If you went for a calf, the cow would be on top of you.

“There are just too many strange things here,” Miller said.

Chuck Zukowski, an independent UFO investigator from Colorado Springs, has investigated all three cattle mutilations in the area.

“These mutilations have the tendency of happening a few at a time. So it is not uncommon that there are three here this month,” Zukowski said.

Zukowski, who has been a UFO and cow mutilation investigator for more than 20 years, said that all three cases fit the criteria to be called an unknown phenomenon.

“These two cows and this calf do not fit the norm of a normal death or a predator death. This is the first thing we look at,” Zukowski said.

In all three cases, Zukowski said there was no blood around the cattle where they laid.

“If a predator got to these cattle, there would be blood around somewhere, “ he said.

Sightings of UFOs and strange, unmarked, black helicopters sometimes coincide with most cattle mutilation cases across the country.

Zukowski said that the night Miller lost his calf, he received a report of a dark triangular craft flying over Colorado Springs.

“A witness told me that the craft was coming from the southeast. That means it was coming from the Walsenburg/Trinidad area. We are in the process of trying to understand how fast this object was going to see if it could have been in that area,” Zukowski said.

“It’s a big speculation and we are trying to grasp at straws, but we are trying to find anything we can to relate these occurrences.”

Zukowski said that whatever killed the cow and removed the udders on Garren’s ranch was not interested in a newborn calf.

“Would a predator attack a 1,200 pound animal for food, when a newborn calf lay helplessly 50 feet away?” Zukowski asked.

Zukowski also is a member of the Mutual UFO Network, an international nonprofit group that investigates UFOs and other strange phenomena for the public.

“I am the biggest skeptic to start with on these cases. I need to be sure before I start saying what I think it is.

“I can tell you that it is very strange and doesn’t seem possible by humans,” Zukowski said.

The thousands of reported cattle mutilations in the United States and around the world have spawned theories about aliens sent to Earth to slice up cows.

The phenomena in Colorado began in the late 1960s when farmers in the San Luis Valley began reporting mutilated cattle and horses, Zukowski said.

The circumstances surrounding cattle mutilations were different than anything the local authorities had ever investigated. At the time, satanic cults were blamed.

Reports of cattle mutilations spread throughout the Midwest and even into Canada. Paranoia and speculation about the deaths ran rampant.

“All these years later not one person has been prosecuted for this. We don’t know what has killed these animals,” Zukowski said.

“Hopefully we can find out what happened, but it doesn’t look too promising. This is not something we are used to,” Garren said.

“I really hope somebody can figure out what is happening to these things. It’s scary,” Miller said.


514 posted on 04/17/2009 11:51:50 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

great info..thanks Quix & have a great weekend everyone~


515 posted on 04/17/2009 12:11:04 PM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: DollyCali

Thanks for your kind reply.

You have a great weekend, too.


516 posted on 04/17/2009 3:36:32 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; airborne; albertp; areafiftyone; aruanan; A South Park Republican; auggy; ..

UFO PING LIST PING

THERE’S ALSO A GOOD ACCURATE REPORTING OF THE PIRATE SITUATION FROM SEALS SOURCES ABOUT 3-4 ITEMS DOWN

IF YOU WANT ON THIS PING LIST—PLEASE TELL LAS VEGAS DAVE, D.C.PATRIOT AND I which of the following you want on:

A) ORIGINAL LARGEST LIST LEAST FREQUENT THOUGH with more dramatic things happening more frequently—can still sometimes be frequent. More often it probably averages 1-3 times/month to 1-3 times a week.

B) More frequently but moderate amount of pings/week.

C) More frequently. Can be daily or every other day or so.

D) Can be daily—Quix’s BUDDY UFO PING LIST.

When you choose a level, you are included on all the lower levels as well.

Thanks,


GLEANINGS FROM ATS:

USO FILMED BY SCUBA DIVERS:

It comes from the left of the screen. It seems to be a bit bigger than the divers’ heads.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2c5_1240115776&p=1

ATS USO THREAD:


EXCELLENT THREAD ON OCCAM’S RAZOR:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread455998/pg1

Origin:
1900–05; after William of Occam

I wonder how many times we would have ever heard of Occam’s Razor if it hadn’t been for Jody Foster in “Contact”. Probably not as much as we do. It is used in effect to destroy the notion, in general, of the existence of any type of E.T. visition, past or present, to our humble (or not so) planet.

It drives me to question the manner of use in context of UFOs (alien, past and present) as a point in which the simplest conclusion is the fact we haven’t been visited, singularly or frequently.

As a race, (humans) it is abundantly obvious that throughout history we have had the need to look skywards for answers. It is telling that we have ancient stories of such events as aliens, not only visiting, but co-mingling with humans - even taking brides and birthing offspring (Sumerian Tablets). Telling is the fact that we, with our great tools of technology and industry, look at great feats of acheivement such as Easter Island and Macchu Picchu - where huge statues face the coast and hats weighing as much as 20tons are meant to adorn these stone figures, where stones are placed so accurately that not even a sheet of paper can penetrate their creases - and have to wonder how this was done without some type of alien assistance.

Then we have stories of such great debate as Roswell 1947, Phoenix Lights 1997, and so on that have yet to be definitively solved or disclosed, with any level of satisfaction, that lend to the truth that we are aware of our place in this universe and our knowledge that “If we are here, we have neighbors out there”. The debates that rage on today between Skeptical People and People Who Believe should be evidence enough that we know that something is going on. Point in case; if the skeptical folks know that there is nothing going on it would be moot to debate - you don’t debate the facts, you don’t debate 1+1=3 if you KNOW it =2.

My point is we all know already. What we really want are the details, the facts of what really is transpiring under our noses. We can debate the details.

Back to Occam’s Razor. Just with the mathematics involved in the possibility of intelligent life in our galaxy and the fact of the age of our galaxy, isn’t the simplest answer( Occam’s Razor ), really; We have been visited and possibly (probably) still are being visited?

It seems the opposite of Occam’s Razor would be trying to argue that we haven’t been visited. Some even think evolution doesn’t effect humans

thinkprogress.org...

others think that we aren’t even from this planet originally

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Whether or not we are subject to the twisting of time or we are from Omicron-Persei 8 we may never know, but we do know the answer to whether or not we have been visited by an intelligent life form, not born and raised on Earth...

The maxim that assumptions introduced to explain a thing must not be multiplied beyond necessity.

@ @ @

http://www.nicap.org/papers/zeiler2.htm

UFO debunkers don’t understand Occam’s Razor, and they abuse it regularly.

They think they understand it, but they don’t. What it means is that when several hypotheses of varying complexity can explain a set of observations with equal ability, the first one to be tested should be the one that invokes the fewest number of uncorroborated assumptions.

If this simplest hypothesis is proven incorrect, the next simplest is chosen, and so forth.

But the skeptics forget two parts: the part regarding the test of the simpler hypotheses, and the part regarding explaining all of the observations.

What a debunker will do is mutilate and butcher the observations until it can be “explained” by one of the simpler hypotheses, which is the inverse
of the proper approach. The proper approach is to alter the hypothesis to accommodate the observations.

One should never alter the observations to conform with a hypothesis by saying “if we assume the object was not physical, despite the level of evidence that would imply the solidity of a conventional aircraft with near-certainty, then we can also assume the object was not moving, was not exhibiting the color orange, was not 50 feet in diameter as described, and
then declare that it was really Venus.”

But that’s okay for the skeptics to do because it’s an “extraordinary claim” being made that deserves to be explained away in a Machiavellian fashion as rapidly as possible with the urgent zeal of a religious missionary.
Now, to alter observations to force conformance with the
preferred hypothesis — is that science? Or is that dogma?

The answer, of course, is dogma.

This practice is extremely poor science, and the approach undermines the very spirit of scientific
inquiry.

It is simply unacceptable to alter the observations that refuse to conform with the predetermined, favored explanation.


SEAL TEAMS AND PIRATE SITUATION VS LYING TRAITOR IN CHIEF:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread456353/pg1

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SEAL report on what realy happened!

I saw this on another thread and having a son who’s attached to the SEAL Team in Little Creek, I called him to verify if it realy being passed around to the teams.

HIS ANSWER WAS ‘YES’ it is what realy was going on behind the scenes when handleling the pirates!

“Having spoken to some SEAL pals here in Virginia Beach yesterday and asking why this thing dragged out for 4 days, I got the following:

1. BHO wouldn’t authorize the DEVGRU/NSWC SEAL teams to the scene for 36 hours going against OSC (on scene commander) recommendation.

2. Once they arrived, BHO imposed restrictions on their ROE that they couldn’t do anything unless the hostage’s life was in “imminent” danger

3. The first time the hostage jumped into the sea, the SEALS had the raggies all sighted in, but could not fire due to ROE restriction

4. When the navy RIB came under fire as it approached with supplies, no fire was returned due to ROE restrictions. As the raggies were shooting at the RIB, they were exposed and the SEALS had them all dialed in.

5. BHO specifically denied two rescue plans developed by the Bainbridge CPN and SEAL teams.

6. Bainbridge CPN and SEAL team CDR finally decide they have the OpArea and OSC authority to solely determine risk to hostage. 4 hours later, 3 dead raggies.

7. BHO immediately claims credit for his “daring and decisive” behavior. As usual with him, it’s BS.

Read the following accurate account.”

“Philips’ first leap into the warm, dark water of the Indian Ocean hadn’t worked out as well. With the Bainbridge in range and a rescue by his country’s Navy possible, Philips threw himself off of his lifeboat prison, enabling Navy shooters onboard the destroyer a clear shot at his captors and none was taken.

The guidance from National Command Authority, the president of the United States , Barack Obama had been clear: a peaceful solution was the only acceptable outcome to this standoff unless the hostage’s life was in clear, extreme danger.

The next day, a small Navy boat approaching the floating raft was fired on by the Somali pirates and again no fire was returned and no pirates killed. This was again due to the cautious stance assumed by Navy personnel, thanks to the combination of a lack of clear guidance from Washington and a mandate from the commander in chief’s staff not to act until Obama, a man with no background of dealing with such issues and no track record of decisiveness, decided that any outcome other than a peaceful solution would be acceptable.

After taking fire from the Somali kidnappers again Saturday night, the onscenecommander decided he’d had enough.

Keeping his authority to act in the case of a clear and present danger to the hostage’s life, and having heard nothing from Washington since yet another request to mount a rescue operation had been denied the day before, the Navy officer, unnamed in all media reports to date, decided the AK47 one captor had leveled at Philips’ back was a threat to the hostage’s life and ordered the NSWC team to take their shots.

Three rounds downrange later, all three brigands became enemy KIA and Philips was safe.

There is upside, downside, and spinside to the series of events over the last week that culminated in yesterday’s dramatic rescue of an American hostage.

Almost immediately following word of the rescue, the Obama administration and its supporters claimed victory against pirates in the Indian Ocean and [1] declared that the dramatic end to the standoff put paid to questions of the inexperienced president’s toughness and decisiveness.

Despite the Obama administration’s (and its sycophants’) attempt to spin yesterday’s success as a result of bold, decisive leadership by the inexperienced president, the reality is nothing of the sort. What should have been a standoff lasting only hours, as long as it took the USS Bainbridge and its team of NSWC operators to steam to the location, became an embarrassing four day and counting standoff between a ragtag handful of criminals with rifles and a U.S. Navy warship.”
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Zindo


LONG UFO VIDEO FILMED BY CHILD IN BRAZIL.

Somewhat interesting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgD7Aerqlrg

Thread about it:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread456274/pg1

source:

http://www.allnewsweb.com/page6736734.php


AN INVESTIGATION INTO NEWS MEDIA COMPLICITY IN SILENCING & DISTORTING AUTHENTIC UFO REPORTS . . .

ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread400561/pg1

SOURCE VIDEO:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-300603436332211775&q=terry+hansen&ei=LnRoSIvhEoOgrwLa04DdAw


ATS THREAD ABOUT WHETHER FOLKS WOULD TAKE THE CHIP IMPLANT ID, OR NOT:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread456095/pg1


COPTER CHASING UFO?

ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread456354/pg1

SOURCE LINK:

http://www.crowdedskies.com/ufo_pictures5.htm


HORRIFIC ECONOMIC PREDICTION THREAD ABOUT BY THE TIME OTHUGA LEAVES OFFICE:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread456344/pg1


I have NOT read the following . . . Don’t like getting into it whether it’s total fantasy or total truth and it’s probably somewhere in between.

Illuminati/Reptilian Pact (WARNING: It’s sickening)

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread456298/pg1


EXCELLENT THREAD AND RESOURCES, LINKS ON

CLINICAL DEPRESSION

WELL WORTH IT IF YOU KNOW ANYONE SUFFERING FROM DEPRESSION

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread455408/pg1



517 posted on 04/19/2009 7:29:08 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

THE CLEARER PICS OF THE BRAZIL UFO

BEGIN ABOUT 3:16 INTO IT.


518 posted on 04/19/2009 7:32:35 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
After taking fire from the Somali kidnappers again Saturday night, the onscenecommander decided he’d had enough.

Keeping his authority to act in the case of a clear and present danger to the hostage’s life, and having heard nothing from Washington since yet another request to mount a rescue operation had been denied the day before, the Navy officer, unnamed in all media reports to date, decided the AK47 one captor had leveled at Philips’ back was a threat to the hostage’s life and ordered the NSWC team to take their shots.

Three rounds downrange later, all three brigands became enemy KIA and Philips was safe.

Interesting stuff, Quix. Thanks for the ping.

519 posted on 04/19/2009 8:03:20 PM PDT by GOPJ (The New York Times can compress the most words into the smallest ideas of anyone- bow to Lincoln)
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To: GOPJ

I’m sure OThuga is convinced that his oligarchy puppet masters make him invincible.

And, that he can lie, lie, lie, lie . . . obfuscate . . . . . spread treason far and wide and deep

and the truth will not be known.

God will always see that sooner or later, the truth is out.

Further, the clueless empty one will have to suffer through EVERY INDIVIDUAL ON THE PLANET’S SUFFERING as a consequence of his decisions.

He will feel their pain; see through their eyes; hear, feel, their thoughts . . . That will be an interesting educational experience for him . . . given that by then . . . the cell in hell will be securely reserved.

I’d love for him to repent, confess and turn 180 degrees. I just don’t see it happening.

I’d love to be wrong.


520 posted on 04/19/2009 8:19:52 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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