[familyop]

"This is a powerful and important article, TAC has been posting on thread #1 from a different Argentina’s blog and they do indeed understand what it appears we are soon to learn."

Thanks! I'll have a look at that thread. The government in Argentina, with help from advisors from all over the world, has been broadcasting for some time that Argentina's rich, fine and dandy again. Even most people in neighboring places like Chile are convinced of that.

"On the Police Scanners, I had noticed that there a more serious break in’s early the morning and way too many children being shot on the streets."

Ah. Is it because you're closer to the border, perhaps? ...lot of terrible things coming from the "trafficantes" down that way, as some of my coworkers call them. There's not much of that going on up here. The dangers here are mostly different (very remote area, extreme cold, dangerous high passes in winter, higher costs, lack of hospitals and the like).

"Thank you for the link, I am glad that I read the article."

You're most welcome! There's a long story behind that link but well worth the read for wiser people here. IMHO, things here won't be exactly like they are in Argentina, even if the economy goes that far down here. There are a few long term cultural differences between there and here. Granted, though, we've been headed that way a little bit for a while (some unwisely discarded old morals, too much materialism, more European-like culture, etc.).

As for survival in general, I believe that our most important assets besides our own levels of discipline are our better neighbors. It's wise to keep our eyes, ears and minds attentive to which neighbors are more likely to be genuinely helpful. ...few and far between, but they are around. Over the past decade or so, we've found a few relatively good, helpful and patient neighbors around here.

[nw_arizona_granny]

We may not be that different from Argentina, as we have so many people from other countries, that we have lost some of the will needed to see the country survives, in my opinion.

I listen to the police in Denver, Las Vegas and all over the west.

It is all shootings on the street, an amazing amount of them and they do not make the papers.

You are blessed if you know your neighbors, I don’t and I have owned this property over 30 years and lived in it 20 of them.

I do know that across the street, living in a travel trailer, is a family that has all been in prison, more than once.

Next to them, someone is building an almost mansion, the garage is started and it is over size with 3 doors, so the house will be something to see.

A misplaced investment, as my mobile is 50 years old and shows it and there is no way that I can make it pretty, as I can’t even go outside.

Whatever you do, don’t get old.

[Wneighbor]

As for survival in general, I believe that our most important assets besides our own levels of discipline are our better neighbors. It's wise to keep our eyes, ears and minds attentive to which neighbors are more likely to be genuinely helpful. ...few and far between, but they are around. Over the past decade or so, we've found a few relatively good, helpful and patient neighbors around here.

.... and do your best to keep the deadbeat neighbors from knowing what you're doing. Make 'em think you got nothin' and no work ethic just like them.

[Gabz]

As for survival in general, I believe that our most important assets besides our own levels of discipline are our better neighbors. It's wise to keep our eyes, ears and minds attentive to which neighbors are more likely to be genuinely helpful. ...few and far between, but they are around. Over the past decade or so, we've found a few relatively good, helpful and patient neighbors around here.

Excellent summation of excellent advice!

And the term "neighbors" doesn't necessarily have to mean the folks next door or across the road. I live out in the sticks, and although we have good neighbors right across the road, some of our best "neighbors" actually live a few miles away.

Our farmer neighbors are a bountiful font of information and are very willing to share their knowledge with "newbies."