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To: Marmolade; DelaWhere; TenthAmendmentChampion; nw_arizona_granny; All
Question for Everyone:

ahem....just wanted to get everyone's attention!

I was having an argument....er...discussion on another thread about the importance of being prepared for the worst. The other guy insisted that it was not important at all. He/she thought that the government would supply food and even housing to everyone (ie., just like they do with food stamps now, but more widespread). I didn't think it was feasible - if the economy is in a shambles, where will the money come from? Anyway, he/she insisted that would be a first priority in order to stop the possibility of riots and civil unrest. And that they wouldn't risk the overthrow of the government, not to mention getting more people hooked on free handouts. That part does make sense.

So, what do y'all think? [I was born and raised in Texas, so I can legally use that term ;)]
3,055 posted on 02/26/2009 5:33:45 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall

When it falls apart, it may fall way apart. Firearms are helpful, but I’m also looking into water purification equipment and storing grains, canned goods, etc. Heck, it’s a good idea even for an ice storm or tornado taking power out. People in Kentucky were without power for a couple of weeks after the last ice storm, so get an emergency preparedness kit going, and think about what it would take for long term.


3,056 posted on 02/26/2009 5:43:10 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: CottonBall

Check your FRmail, too......


3,057 posted on 02/26/2009 6:13:38 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma ( PRAY! Pray for the U.S. Pray for Israel.)
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To: CottonBall

Where will all the food/housing come from? We’ve read that the surplus food/grain the gov’t has is down to a low amount due to selling it overseas. Do they think there are gov’t warehouses full of food for just such a time? I think its pretty scary to think they can just sit back and wait for it to arrive. How long could they wait - days, weeks? What will they do in the meantime? It took a while for Katrina people to receive help and the same with the folks in Kentucky. If this were to happen nationwide all at once, I don’t think they can count on immediate assistance.

Also, I wouldn’t want to have to go into some kind of gov’t housing/camp situation - alot of people competing for food and housing. No thanks.


3,058 posted on 02/26/2009 7:24:09 PM PST by Marmolade
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To: CottonBall

OK - Defensive Soap Box comes out!

IF - the SHTF, who will provide the aid?

FEMA?

FEMA preparedness site -

You may need to survive on your own after a disaster. This means having your own food, water, and other supplies in sufficient quantity.

Local officials and relief workers will be on the scene after a disaster, but they cannot reach everyone immediately. You could get help in hours, or it might take
days.

Basic services such as electricity, gas, water, sewage treatment, and telephones may be cut off for days, or even a week or longer. Or, you may have to evacuate at a
moment’s notice and take essentials with you. You probably will not have the opportunity to shop or search for the supplies you need

You may want to consider having supplies for sheltering for up to two weeks.

Food
The following are things to consider when putting together your food supplies:
• Avoid foods that will make you thirsty. Choose salt-free crackers, whole grain
cereals, and canned foods with high liquid content.
• Stock canned foods, dry mixes, and other staples that do not require refrigera-
tion, cooking, water, or special preparation. You may already have many of
these on hand. Note: Be sure to include a manual can opener.
• Include special dietary needs

Maintaining Your Disaster
Supplies Kit
Just as important as putting your supplies together is maintaining them so they are
safe to use when needed. Here are some tips to keep your supplies ready and in
good condition:
• Keep canned foods in a dry place where the temperature is cool.
• Store boxed food in tightly closed plastic or metal containers to protect from pests and to extend its shelf life.
• Throw out any canned good that becomes swollen, dented, or corroded.
• Use foods before they go bad, and replace them with fresh supplies.
• Place new items at the back of the storage area and older ones in the front.
• Change stored food and water supplies every six months. Be sure to write the date you store it on all containers


Does this sound like they are prepared to give food aid to citizens immediately?

Aid from FEMA comes largely from goods purchased AFTER a disaster happens. Truckloads of Ice, Bottled Water, Food are all started into the stream by purchases from approved contractors once the disaster occurs.

They have some MRE’s but they depend on the market for what they need to feed you.

IF there is widespread (let alone Universal as a financial crisis is) disaster, and there are riots, food shipments will be the first things attacked by the mobs. Their purchased shipments would not be forthcoming.

Some say that they can issue food stamp type credit cards. What will the holder be able to buy from empty grocery shelves?

AND how long would it take to issue the millions and millions of cards? How long would just the application process take?


Regarding housing -

WHAT?

They don’t even have enough blankets for a displaced nation.

Forget the cots, tents or latrines...

Not going to happen!

Troublemakers who are arrested will be put into detention facilities (lucky them) where they have some facilities, but wholesale public housing - Hahahaha Ask about the current waiting lists for housing - We don’t even have space for the current homeless.

Just think about it... if you are trying to bed down 1/3 of the US population that might be displaced - Hmmm Average of 5’7” times 100 million divided by 5280 feet in a mile = 106,060 MILES of head to toe bunks. Gee, that’s 35 wide from the East coast all the way to the West coast.

And you expect them to feed them too??????

Hardy har har har!!! ROFL all over the place.....

Boy whoever is arguing (ahem, excuse me discussing) with you about that is LOONY!!! Like not the sharpest knife in the drawer - A nightlight among spotlights.

Like the old farmer said when asked why he hit the mule in the head with a 2X4 - ‘to get its attention’ is what they need. 8~) <<< See, eyes wide open...


3,059 posted on 02/26/2009 7:24:24 PM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: CottonBall

During the cold war, I lived in San Diego, about once a month we were warned that there was only a 3 day supply of food in the stores and warehouses of San Diego.

And if an attack came, the Gov. would instantly take control and they would decide who ate.

Today, that would be the elites first, cops and doctors, next and that would be maybe.

I would be the last name on the list, who feeds someone old and sick.............?


3,072 posted on 02/27/2009 2:27:46 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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