Posted on 02/09/2009 12:36:11 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny
>>>Well, lacking any input (everyone must be busy with their own preparations!),<<<
There comes a time when all tutors must let their students spread their wings and fly free!
You are doing GREAT... Keep flying higher, knowing we will all learn more from failures than our successes.
Really, very happy for your venturesome approach! Keep it up!
LOL!
Thanks for the truffle research!
Like you, I'm new to this stuff and meat canning is a neverhaddone! I'm going to pick you and DW's minds when I'm ready to jump! So please keep a running list of posts you've made so I can learn from them!
Heck! I'm so busy with all the projects here at the gulch the canner is still just a sittin on it's shelf awaitin for me to give her a whirl! I keep promising her a dance, but dang!
I thought as a nice break from the daily rot, I would pass this on , except for a couple of items, all ring true for me as I’m older than dirt.
‘Someone asked the other day, ‘What was your favorite fast food when you were growing up?’
‘We didn’t have fast food when I was growing up,’ I informed him.
‘All the food was slow.’
‘C’mon, seriously. Where did you eat?’
‘It was a place called ‘at home,’’ I explained. !
’ Mom cooked every day and when Dad got home from work, we sat down together at the dining room table, and if I didn’t like what she put on my plate I was allowed to sit there until I did like it.’
By this time, the kid was laughing so hard I was afraid he was going to suffer serious internal damage, so I didn’t tell him the part about how I had to have permission to leave the table..
But here are some other things I would have told him about my childhood if I figured his system could have handled it :
Some parents NEVER owned their own house, wore Levis , set foot on a golf course, traveled out of the country or had a credit card.
In their later years they had something called a revolving charge card. The card was good only at Sears Roebuck... Or maybe it was Sears & Roebuck.
Either way, there is no Roebuck anymore. Maybe he died.
My parents never drove me to soccer practice. This was mostly because we never had heard of soccer. I had a bicycle that weighed probably 50 pounds, and only had one speed, (slow).
We didn’t have a television in our house until I was 19.
It was, of course, black and white, and the station went off the air at midnight, after playing the national anthem and a poem about God; it came back on the air at about 6 a..m. and there was usually a locally produced news and farm show on, featuring local people.
I was 21 before I tasted my first pizza, it was called ‘pizza pie.’
When I bit into it, I burned the roof of my mouth and the cheese slid off, swung down, plastered itself against my chin and burned that, too. It’s still the best pizza I ever had.
I never had a telephone in my room.
The only phone in the house was in the living room and it was on a party line. Before you could dial, you had to listen and make sure some people you didn’t know weren’t already using the line.
Pizzas were not delivered to our home. But milk was..
All newspapers were delivered by boys and all boys delivered newspapers —my brother delivered a newspaper, six days a week. It cost 7 cents a paper, of which he got to keep 2 cents. He had to get up at 6AM every morning.
On Saturday, he had to collect the 42 cents from his customers.. His favorite customers were the ones who gave him 50 cents and told him to keep the change. His least favorite customers were the ones who seemed to never be home on collection day.
Movie stars kissed with their mouths shut. At least, they did in the movies. There were no movie ratings because all movies were responsibly produced for everyone to enjoy viewing, without profanity or violence or most anything offensive.
If you grew up in a generation before there was fast food, you may want to share some of these memories with your children or grandchildren. Just don’t blame me if they bust a gut laughing.
Growing up isn’t what it used to be, is it?
MEMORIES from a friend :
My Dad is cleaning out my grandmother’s house (she died in December) and he brought me an old Royal Crown Cola bottle. In the bottle top was a stopper with a bunch of holes in it.. I knew immediately what it was, but my daughter had no idea. She thought they had tried to make it a salt shaker or something. I knew it as the bottle that sat on the end of the ironing board to ‘sprinkle’ clothes with because we didn’t have steam irons. Man, I am old.
How many do you remember?
Head lights dimmer switches on the floor.
Ignition switches on the dashboard.
Heaters mounted on the inside of the fire wall.
Real ice boxes.
Pant leg clips for bicycles without chain guards.
Soldering irons you heat on a gas burner.
Using hand signals for cars wi thout turn signals..
Older Than Dirt Quiz :
Count all the ones that you remember not the ones you were told about.
Ratings at the bottom.
1. Blackjack chewing gum
2.Wax Coke-shaped bottles with colored sugar water
3. Candy cigarettes
4.. Soda pop machines that dispensed glass bottles
5. Coffee shops or diners with tableside juke boxes
6. Home milk delivery in glass bottles with cardboard stoppers
7. Party lines on the telephone
8. Newsreels before the movie
9.. P..F. Flyers
10. Butch wax
11. TV test patterns that came on at night after the last show and were there until TV shows started again in the morning. (there were only 3 channels [if you were fortunate])
12. Peashooters
13. Howdy Doody
14.. 45 RPM records
15. S& H greenstamps
16. Hi-fi’s
17.. Metal ice trays with lever
18. Mimeograph paper
19. Blue flashbulb
20. Packards
21. Roller skate keys
22. Cork popguns
23. Drive-ins
24. Studebakers
25. Wash tub wringers
If you remembered 0-5 = You’re still young
If you remembered 6-10 = You are getting older
If you remembered 11-15 = Don’t tell your age,
If you remembered 16-25 = You’re older than dirt!
I might be older than dirt but those memories are some of the best parts of my life.
How many do you remember?
Choke knob on the steel dashboard
Head lights dimmer switches on the floor.
Ignition switches on the dashboard.
Heaters mounted on the inside of the fire wall.
Real ice boxes.
Pant leg clips for bicycles without chain guards.
Soldering irons you heat on a gas burner.
Using hand signals for cars without turn signals..
Older Than Dirt Quiz : 25 for 25
Count all the ones that you remember not the ones you were told about.
Ratings at the bottom.
1. Blackjack chewing gum
2.Wax Coke-shaped bottles with colored sugar water
3. Candy cigarettes
4.. Soda pop machines that dispensed glass bottles
.....two kinds- the big zinc(?) lever and the slider chest type with ice for the coldest Coca-cola
5. Coffee shops or diners with tableside juke boxes
....drug store and Five and Dime store lunch counters had them as well
6. Home milk delivery in glass bottles with cardboard stoppers
....individual little glass creamers with the cardboard lids at lunch counters etc.
7. Party lines on the telephone
8. Newsreels before the movie
...Saturday movie house matinees for the kids, double feature plus four or five cartoons
....on stage popcorn eating contests with free movie passes as prizes
9.. P..F. Flyers
10. Butch wax
.......Brylcream, a little dab’ll do yah, Vitalis, and metal taps on your shoes
11. TV test patterns that came on at night after the last show and were there until TV shows started again in the morning. (there were only 3 channels [if you were fortunate])
12. Peashooters
13. Howdy Doody
14.. 45 RPM records
15. S & H greenstamps- family sitting at the kitchen table with damp sponges gluing the .......stamps into books and looking through the redemption catalogues
16. Hi-fi’s
.... tube amplifier kits from Eico, Heathkit, etc.
17.. Metal ice trays with lever
...... still the best
18. Mimeograph paper
..... The smell of the mimeograph test papers in school
19. Blue flashbulb
20. Packards
...... Henry J’s, DeSotos, Nash Ramblers and Metropolitans, woodie station wagons w/real wood
21. Roller skate keys
.......roller skate scooters, soapbox derby
22. Cork popguns
23. Drive-ins
24. Studebakers
25. Wash tub wringers
If you remembered 0-5 = You’re still young
If you remembered 6-10 = You are getting older
If you remembered 11-15 = Don’t tell your age,
If you remembered 16-25 = You’re older than dirt!
I might be older than dirt but those memories are some of the best parts of my life.
>>>I might be older than dirt but those memories are some of the best parts of my life.<<<
OMG - I must be a dinosaur.....
What about:
Pitcher pumps
Outhouses
Washboards
Hand Cranks to start your car
Baker automobiles (Electric cars)
Stanley automobiles (Steamers)
One room schoolhouses (12 grades)
Sumac Lemonade
Smokehouses
Putting up loose hay in the mow
Hitching rails at school
Students picking apples from schoolyard as part of teachers pay.
Jeeesh, I remember not only all the ones on your list, but these too...
>>>slider chest type with ice for the coldest Coca-cola<<<
Oh boy, our local lumber yard had one of those - 5¢ Cokes... Used to walk all the way across town (about a half mile) for one. So cold that they would form a little ice slush when you opened them.
Rambler Metropolitans - Had one of those when I was in the Army. LOL can you imagine - 5 of us used to ride from Ft. Devens, Massachusetts home to Delaware for weekends when we were off. 3 in front and two on the jumpseat in back with their legs stuck into the trunk - back of rear jumpseat was trunk access. There was a bus that would pass us every Sunday on our way back through New Jersey - he would pull up along side as he passed us and all would look and laugh, then he would fall back till I would pass him, then all on the other side would laugh. 5 BIG GI’s in a tin can like sardines. 32 miles per gallon - gas at 25¢ - split 5 ways was doable even when we made $68 a month military pay!
Welcome to the thread. Hope you continue to post...
Saturday movie house matinees for the kids, double feature plus four or five cartoons
....on stage popcorn eating contests with free movie passes as prizes<<<
We used to have visiting YoYo champions on stage - along with a local competition too. As you said - free tickets were the prizes.
Admission - 25¢
>>>Years ago, when we had pigs, we must have built their pen over the brick yard, as they rooted out scads of old bricks which I salvaged for walkways.<<<
Amazing what pigs will root up... Used to have Poland Chinas and they uncovered quite a few unusual things.
Sorry to see you are getting more rain (along with us too) again today... That clay sure does hold the moisture.
>>>slider chest type with ice for the coldest Coca-cola<<<
Oh boy, our local lumber yard had one of those - 5¢ Cokes...
Here’s trivia note. The first soda cans I can recall were made of steel with conical tops and....a steel bottle cap. Seems to me that they were only used by local brands and weren’t around for very long. IIRC they were also some brands of beer that used them,
July 1, 2009
The Obama Mess and the Way Out
Colonel Bob Pappas, (USMC, ret.)
For nearly a hundred years the United States was one of the world’s preeminent powers. To the south, beginning with Mexico, tin horned dictators in Central and South America were just that. In the 1920s they felt the “guiding” hand of the United States whenever their empire building became overly ambitious. But before then, the U.S. entered WWI, “the war to end all wars,” then later, albeit reluctantly, WWII to save Europe from Hitler and the Pacific Rim from Hirohito. Then there was that little matter of the Cold War during which the U.S. stood in the gap as freedom’s bastion, lasted nearly 50 years and at the end of which Presidents Reagan and Bush brought the totalitarian evil empire to its knees. In this more enlightened era of liberal socialism, enter, Mr. “America has been nothing but wrong” Obama. Where he wooed the lemmings, who were naïve enough to believe him, the real world does not abide his “godlike” floating above the din.
Just for openers: Ahmadinejad told Obama to apologize for interfering in Iran’s internal politics; China and Russia, disgusted with his monetary policy are leading the charge to “change” the world’s currency
from the dollar to some other more stable international medium of exchange; Muslim countries wonder if he envisions himself the reincarnation of Mohammed, or more likely a Christian, Trojan Horse in their midst; and Israel runs for cover; North Korea thumbs their nose at him, in fact sticks it in his eye; Japan and South Korea question the future of their security arrangement with the United States; Europe snickers; India wonders what is going on, and African nations are “present.” Oh, yes, Obama’s buddy, Chávez, is about to invade Honduras – just what the Americas need; and South America is cozying up with Obama’s communist buddies in China. They voted for change, and we got it, and that’s a fair summary of the state of Obama’s international leadership.
At home, things are not any better. In his effort to “totally change” the U.S. economy he has created havoc and is underscoring that with what is potentially the most disastrous single piece of legislation, (Cap and Trade), ever enacted in the history of the world, much less the country. This “piece of work” is worse than Jimmy Carter, and Carter was the worst – in leadership and just about all other terms than any President in history of the U.S. with the single exception that his work for Habitat for Humanity is notable. I wrote months ago that Obama was an empty suit, and even stated that he was possessed of an U.S. hating, socialist vision. His ignorance is obscene, yet the “smartest brains in the room,” the so-called mainstream media fawn at his feet because he can read a teleprompter. Someone asked if Obama were dethroned, “then what, Joe?” At this point, “Joe,” Biden, that is, would be refreshing.
In six months Obama has done more to destroy the United States than all wars in its 200 year history combined and he may just succeed, unless the lemmings at home and Congress wake up.
Here’s the solution to the economic, health care and illegal immigration crisis – the sun’s snooze is taking care of global warming.
Offer bonuses to all illegal immigrants to return to their homelands. Given that there are about 12 million of them, pay each $30,000 which would cost $360 billion and which would be recouped in decreased health care costs in less than five years. There would be additional $75 billion annual savings in educational cost savings, $35-100 billion a year in criminal justice system costs savings.
Second, terminate bailouts. That would decrease Federal government outlays by between two and three trillion dollars and the funds saved there could be used for retraining and economic support of those temporarily dislocated by the economic slowdown. The 10 million people currently out of work could be retrained at a cost of $30,000 per capita annually at an annual aggregate cost of $300 billion dollars. Out year money saved by repatriation of illegal immigrants would more than pay the bill; a twofer with money left over, but don’t tell a Democrat…or a “compassionate conservative.”
Finally, at least 10 million jobs would be available that are presently being filled by illegal immigrants. The inevitable all but irrelevant question arises, “Who would do the work they do since no U.S. citizen would do it?” The facts are that illegal immigrants are taking jobs from U.S. citizens in virtually every sector from construction, to artisans, to office workers, assembly line workers, restaurants and high tech. To argue that “illegals” perform only menial work is to exhibit an abysmal lack of knowledge of the facts.
If these simple steps were taken the job market would immediately improve for U.S. citizens, medical care would be more readily available and cost less because of the decreased drain on health care resources presently inundated by illegal immigrants, the economic downturn would immediately begin a turnaround, and with a bit more ingenuity the country could be on its way back to world leadership (but who cares?).
The final remaining item would be to find a President who is worthy of the title and the responsibility, and until he reveals his birth certificate (not the certification), presently under lock and key, Obama is not the one. (So much for transparency!) Will the lemmings ever get it?
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.3628/pub_detail.asp
NKorean Rocket Capable of Hitting Half the U.S: Scientists
July 1, 2009
Bernama
SEOUL, July 1 (Bernama) — The long-range North Korean rocket, which was launched in April, could be converted into a ballistic missile, that can theoretically hit half the United States with a payload of 1 tonne or more, two U.S. physicists have concluded from their joint study.
Quoting MIT professor Theodore Postol and a physicist at the Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) David Wright, South Korea’s Yonhap news agency reported Wednesday that the rocket could fly even further as of over 10,000 kilometres, if the rocket is turned into a missile.
“The Unha launcher represents a significant advance over North Korea’s previous launchers and would have the capability to reach the continental United States with a payload of 1 tonne or more if North Korea modified it for use as a ballistic missile,” they said.
“We estimate that it could have a range of 10,000-10,500 kilometers, allowing it to reach Alaska, Hawaii, and roughly half of the lower 48 states,” they said in an article posted this week on the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, reports Yonhap.
On April 5, North Korea launched what it claims was a rocket designed to carry a satellite into orbit. The U.S. and its allies say nothing entered orbit, calling the “Unha-2” rocket a disguised form of a ballistic missile capable of flying over 6,700 kilometers.
Noting that a “first-generation plutonium warhead could have a mass of 1,000 kilograms or more,” Postol and Wright said the rocket could carry a 1-tonne payload as far as 7,000-7,500 kilometers even if it had only two of its three stages.
“This would allow it to reach Alaska and parts of Hawaii, but not the lower 48 states,” they said, writing on the assumption that the rocket was designed to carry a lightweight satellite.
“The mass of the satellite plus the deployment mechanism and the structure that attached the satellite to the third stage may have been about 300 kilograms,” they said.
Both the scientists based their analysis partly on the video footage of the rocket launch North Korea released in April, adding computer modeling and past analysis also contributed to their study.
“By measuring the distance the launcher moves as a function of time in these videos, we determined the thrust-to-weight ratio of the Unha vehicle at launch.
“Using estimates of the mass of the Unha launcher, we then estimated the thrust at liftoff generated by the engines,” they said.
Drawing similarities between the North Korean rocket and the components previously developed by China, Russia and Iran, the physicists concluded that “it’s extremely unlikely that these technologies were indigenously produced by North Korea.”
“The third stage appears to be very similar, if not identical, to the upper stage of the Iranian Safir-2 launch vehicle, which placed a small satellite in orbit in February,” they said.
Therefore, the Unha-2 appears to use a third stage with liquid rather than solid fuel, unlike the Taeopdong-1 launcher, they wrote.
Postol, whose expertise lies in ballistic missile technologies, teaches science, technology and national security policy at MIT. Wright co-directs the Global Security Program at the UCS.
— BERNAMA
http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/newsindex.php?id=422155
I may have posted this before (so old, I can’t remember) but I remember all of those, plus between the age of 11 and 13, I was the janitor in our one-room school for two years where I was required to sweep the oiled floors (oiled to keep down the dust) wash blackboards, pound dust from erasers every day after school and in the morning, I arrived two hours before anyone else to build fire, carry enough wood from the combination woodshed, outhouse to keep the fire all day and carry water in a five gallon pail to fill the water cooler from a local neighbor. I arrived in the winter before daylight and left after dark. There was no electricity, so we had kerosene lamps which I was responsible for keeping the globes sparkling. For these chores, I was paid the grand sum of one dollar a week, payable at mid-term and at years end ($13.00 twice a year) and todays children think they have it tough. Never heard of schoolbuses-walked the mile to school and back whatever the weather.
We never had a telephone (had to go to a neighbor to use their party line) and never had a TV until after I married.
DelaWhere,movies were ten cents when I was young and an ice-cream cone was a nickel (you could get the clerk to mix two flavors in one scoop if you asked nicely.)
>>>sweep the oiled floors<<<
Ooooh I can smell that oiled cedar sawdust we used to sweep over the wooden floors... Good memories!
>>>Never heard of schoolbuses-walked the mile to school and back whatever the weather.<<<
I was just shy of two miles, but was very lucky in that I got to ride a horse to school. Huge dapple gray Percheron mare - I would bring her up next to the barn and climb on the half barn door - swing out and climb on her back. At school I would slide off onto the hitching rail then tie her. Every day she would ‘hide’ behind a small sapling thinking you couldn’t see her and every day she acted like ‘aw shucks, he found me again.’
But that was only for the first grade - we moved after that and I went to a big 4 room school with 2 grades in each room.
Here the 10 cent movies were in another town (kind of a dingy railroad town) about 8 miles away - the Schine Theater had much better movies plus all the extra shows and cartoons so the extra was worth it. (at least we thought so)
My first paying job was in Cuba - got a peseta (20¢) for 4 hours weekdays and 8 hours weekends - taking kids for rides on ponies. You were responsible for grooming and saddling the pony and cleaning its stall too. I had to take a trolley to work 7¢ (you got a free return ride). Worked that for almost a year.
You were certainly a busy girl with your job.
I’m jealous you have a gulch and are moving ahead on your survival plan. It must be a great feeling. Not to mention, live somewhere quiet and pretty!
When you’re ready, I’ll hopefully have more knowledge on canning to share. Right now, I’m learning as I go. But it is fun, strangely enough.
Here is a link to a must read from Karl Denninger
” To Dennis Kneale.. You’re An Idiot “
June 30, 2009
OK, now on to the facts - your idiotic and utterly unsupportable “the recession is over” call.
http://market-ticker.org/archives/1175-To-Dennis-Kneale-Youre-An-Idiot.html
I love reading about these memories you have from childhood. Thanks so much for sharing them.
It makes me very sad that 1) I only experienced the tail end of the good ol’ days and 2) that we are so far removed from them.
I don’t think ‘progress’ has benefitted us all that much. Most kids in my neighborhood are home alone much of the time, even those that have both parents at home. For the others, it is even sadder. Organized activities, and the added pressure from coaches and many parents to excel at them, aren’t even close to the playing kids used to do. And all the chores and hard work - what character it developed in your generation! I certainly don’t see much of it in my own generation and even less in my son’s.
I always said I should’ve been born about 20-30 years earlier. I love hanging out with older people and having them share their memories of a better time.
Oops - I forgot to ping you to my post thanking you for sharing your wonderful memories.
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