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To: tpanther
Regarding post #332

Um...my first question to someone who claims that Christianity belongs in public school (and I speak as someone who homeschools her daughter) is: who's version of Christianity? If I were to agree to a full-fledged endorsement of Christian involvement in public school, that is a basic resolution that has to be made, because I can already hear the screams of protest that Baptists would have against a RCCer teaching their children the 'evil Papist cult'. And already in this thread I have seen one or two attempts by FReepers to sneer at the public pronouncement of a religious leader (the Roman Catholic Pope) - which tells me they arent really interested in freedom of religion...just unchallenged access to their own particular interpretation. I would have objections to the Bible Literalists teaching my (Anglican) Catholic child that the concept of transubstantiation is a Bad Thing and a Lie. My child would be subject to their inconsistency and confused version of faith - if she is to believe in a Literal interpretation of Genesis, why is she then not allowed to not believe in a Literal command from Christ Himself to "take, eat, for this is My Body, which will be given up for you"?????

Do you see the problem *I* have with agreeing with Christians who say they are battling the scientists in the public sector???

At least in science, the TRUE scientific method, any inconsistencies are weeded out or given the ability to be vetted. If my Catholic child were to end up under the tutelage of a Protestant, what chance would she have except to be told that she is a Non-Believer?...which is what *I* am told ALL THE TIME by Literalists for accepting the scientific methodology behind the study of evolution. Once they start doing that, I am very much NOT inclined to give them any credence.

554 posted on 01/29/2009 12:41:53 PM PST by Alkhin (I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell. ~ Harry S Truman)
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To: Alkhin

BTTT


557 posted on 01/29/2009 12:56:17 PM PST by Alkhin (I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell. ~ Harry S Truman)
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To: Alkhin; metmom; wintertime

I keep hearing we have to teach purple spaghetti monster creation science and when that strawman fails, I hear about which version of Christianity next.

The point isn’t so much “teaching” Christianity as it is respecting their beliefs, and adherence to the principle of “free exercise thereof”.

Nonsense like “God doesn’t belong in science class”, or “your Bible isn’t allowed in school”, or children are not allowed to pray on school grounds is the liberal PC nonsense people are talking about, and the idea that since we can’t “teach” (again a strawman) ALL the religions, then we’ll just allow none at all.

Then the next step is predictably “you don’t want your child indoctrinated by muslim imam’s do you”?

Another strawman...the school needs to focus on math, writing...you know actual education, not the Koran, not the Bible and not Marshall Applewhite’s instruction to snip your testicles off and kill yourself to catch a spaceship in the tail of a comet.

As far as your last statement about TRUE scientific method and “at least” that it’s weeding out inconsistencies, that’s truly laughable with the algoreacle cult programming young mushy minds that humans are making the planet too hot...not to mention they’re little more than more advanced darwinian little apes; and one could make a valid argument about self-fulfilling prophecies:

if you demand they learn they don’t need God, God is bad, God has no place...etc., I suppose society has been dealt exactly what it deserves with them behaving like apes and hardly graduating, or in those rare cases in inner cities wshen they actually do graduate, ultimately aren’t much smarter than an ape.

Christianity did just fine in public schools until godless NEA politically correct liberals demanded to ruin it for everyone by hijacking the legal system. I can even recall in school when I was young in the 60’s after prayer wa banned, the Golden Rule, “judge not lest ye not be judged”, little age appropriate common sense things that were Biblical principles and that’s about as much as was “taught” then.

But all that’s TOO offensive now...just like saying ‘Merry Christmas’...might offend someone so just offend the majority instead.

Makes PERFECT sense to a liberal.

But I admit there’s no going back...eventually I think the only possibility now is to disband public indoctrination centers and privatize schools as wintertime says. Public schools are abject failures and getting worse.

The results are inarguable...private schools that actually educate children as opposed to socializing them without all the multiple God-hang-ups and hyper-sensitivities actually outperform the kool-aid farms.


646 posted on 01/29/2009 4:45:04 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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