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To: metmom
There is simply no basis for the claim that it will hurt the science education the kids are receiving. On the contrary, evolution has had a monopoly in the school system for decades and has done the science education no good. We continue to fall behind in the world. There is simply no way to lay the blame for that at the feet of the creationists or teaching of creation in public schools, as it isn’t happening.

Can you give me an example of a country that teaches creationism as science, and can objectively be shown to be "ahead of us" in science education?

112 posted on 01/21/2009 4:44:50 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
Can you give me an example of a country that teaches creationism as science, and can objectively be shown to be "ahead of us" in science education?

I can’t. But I understand that the literal interpretation of the Genesis account of creationism is taught in schools in the Islamic world.
113 posted on 01/21/2009 4:55:45 AM PST by Caramelgal (My employer had a room for us to watch the Obamination. I, on the other hand had actual work to do.)
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To: tacticalogic

Posted many times before.

Private Christian schools and homeschoolers teach creation and evolution side by side, the same thing the majority of people in this country want done as evidenced by many polls.

Plain and simple. Teaching creation in school does not hurt science education. It didn’t in the past, it doesn’t in private and homeschools which do it now.

Perhaps you could provide some evidence that teaching creation in schools would hurt the education of kids in schools. Some data would be helpful. Bear in mind, however, that the current decline the academic standards in science and math is happening concurrently with the teaching of evolution alone in public schools. Go ahead, show that creation would make it worse, instead of making unsubstantiated claims.

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2006/03/americans_overwhelmingly_suppo.html

Headline: “Americans Overwhelmingly Support Teaching Scientific Challenges to Darwinian Evolution, Zogby Poll Shows” From March 2006.

http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/filesDB-download.php?command=download&id=719

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Free Republic Poll on Evolution
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1706571/posts?page=63#63

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Creationism makes a comeback in US
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1856224/posts

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Teaching creation and evolution in schools
Solid research reveals American beliefs
http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v13/i2/teaching.asp

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Survey Finds Support Is Strong For Teaching 2 Origin Theories
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B07E4D9143BF932A25750C0A9669C8B63

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Public Divided on Origins of Life
http://people-press.org/report/254/religion-a-strength-and-weakness-for-both-parties

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Americans Believe in Jesus, Poll Says (creation poll results included)
http://derekgulbranson.com/2005/01/17/americans-believe-in-jesus/
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SAT/ACT homeschoolers:
http://www.hslda.org/docs/news/hslda/200105070.asp

Standardized test scores homeschoolers:
http://www.hslda.org/docs/nche/000010/200410250.asp


116 posted on 01/21/2009 8:07:50 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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