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To: spikeytx86

You were saying — “I thought only God, not even the Angels in Heaven, new the date and time of the end of the world?”

Well, to clear up a few things first.... One is — that the world is not going to end. It keeps right on going. What happens is that there will be a time period called Jacob’s Trouble (or better known as the Tribulation, of 7 years) where the Antichrist is given free reign to do what he’s going to do. This is granted by God so that He can bring judgement upon the nations and the peoples of the world, at that time.

At the end of that period of time, Jesus, the Messiah of Israel returns and goes to war with the nations and peoples who have surrounded Israel and have tried to eliminate her as a nation in this world of nations. He dispenses with them, destroying those nations. Then He returns to Jerusalem to set up His worldwide Kingdom, with Him ruling and reigning from Israel, on the Throne of David. That period of time is 1,000 years. During that time Satan has been bound up and prevented from deceiving the nations, as it says in Revelation.

At the end of the 1,000 year reign of Christ on this earth, there is the Great White Throne judgement, where all the unsaved dead are resurrected, judged and thrown into the lake of fire. After that time, all things are “made new” — sin and death are eliminated, all of creation is remade to eliminate the curse that God placed upon it. All things are returned to the original state of creation when God made it originally and all things were pronounced “good”.

Now..., once someone is “in the Tribulation time” the sequence of events are counted down exactly and you will know *exactly* when Jesus, the Messiah of Israel returns to earth. We’re told that it’s 1,260 days from the time that the Antichrist steps in the Temple in Jerusalem and declares himself to be God (that’s the mid-way point). Then you can count the exact days from that point in time.

What is *unknown* and that the angels don’t know the timing of — is — *when* does the Tribulation start, and also, when is the Rapture, when the Christians are “taken up” and out of this world, leaving only the usaved left behind, on this earth. That is the thing that is “unknown” as far as the exact timing. However, you *can know* the “season” that you’re in, as to whether it’s very close or not — by seeing what is happening in the world right now. As it stands, right now, it’s close — but you don’t know exactly when (to the day or hour, or year and so on...) But, once things are “moving” (in the prophetic picture), they will keep right on moving until completion. And that’s where we are right now — in that things are moving towards completion right at this very moment. Just don’t know how fast (but it will be within the lifetimes of the people who see these things happening — and we see them now).

So, the Rapture is the unknown event, along with the beginning time of the Tribulation. But, once that is done, and the Tribulation is underway — it all counts down *exactly to the day* — and you’ll know when Jesus is returning to earth. However, you don’t want to be one of those who is “left behind” on earth to face all that trouble... :-)


185 posted on 01/15/2009 8:41:53 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

Decent summary, from my perspective.

God did seem to take great pains in describing the 2 3.5 year periods several different ways.


188 posted on 01/15/2009 9:04:20 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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