Posted on 01/05/2009 11:21:20 AM PST by Dale Lee
Instead of investing in a gorgeous new design, Miles had just picked a workable, practical five-seater sedan already in production in China, and adapted it into an electric vehicle, designed it to stay below $40,000 before subsidies (which would be $7,500 off, under the current legislation - and likely more with the new probably filibuster-proof Senate majority) and just kept going with developing it.
Then they limited the top speed to a sensible 85 MPH in order to keep the range to a practical 100 mile round-trip per charge.
(Excerpt) Read more at gas2.org ...
And where does the power come from to recharge it every night? After all, we can’t burn coal and we can’t build nukes.
And only requires the equivalent of two box cars full of coal for the electricity needed to charge the battery.
And only requires the equivalent of two box cars full of coal for the electricity needed to charge the battery.
The next great rolling status symbol for Libs.
85 mph and 100 mile range for 33K?
That sucks.
They should at least make it capable of 88 mph so it can go back in time.
The free market is brutally efficient. Build a better mousetrap and they will come.
Lesson from the failed socialism utopias of times gone by, you can build Volgas, but will anyone actually work a job to earn the money and buy a Volga. Sadly, the answer is no, so they end up giving them to Politburo hacks.
that comes from the stationary bicycle (not included) that’s attached to a generator, attached to the car batteries. that way, you get your exercise, recharge the car and everything is green and everyone is happy..
until..
you have to dispose of the car battery, when the feds will hit you for thousands in disposal fees so the battery can be properly taken care of rendering the relatively inexpensive car a mute point when taken in comparison to the cost of gas you would have used../s (maybe)
hopefully it would go forward so I can hop in it and skip the next 4 years (at least)..
An utterly inferior car for $33K; slow and short ranged. Is the charge cheaper than about four to six gallons gas? I doubt it. How far does it go if I turn on the A/C?
If this is what electric car are going to be like, they’ll never catch on.
And, I wonder how many of our self-exhorbed, egotistical, pompous, pseudo intellectual, politicial dunces will be driving these little beauties?
Try pulling a boat or an ATV on a trailer with it. Even worse, I bet you couldn’t even take all of the presents to Grandma’s house for Christmas. “Sorry, kids. We will have to ditch all of the cokes and potato chips to be able to make it up this hill. Gameboys and DVD players as well.”
Power comes from a generator attached to a exercise bike that you pedal all night to recharge the car’s battery.
They said the MSRP will be between $40,000-$45,0000 so $33,000 after government subsidy is the best-case scenario.
I read on their website that battery life is expected to be 100,000 miles, now what would that do for it’s resale value? Would any dealership give you anything for it after it’s been driven for about 60,000 miles?
When you look into the details of operating these things, it always turns into a horrible deal for the consumer.
they are more expensive!
http://cnwmr.com/nss-folder/automotiveenergy/
I found this site last week, and I am seeing how they compute start to finish costs on cars, and why prius’ are expensive!
It's going to be a long time before that's really a problem. These electric cars are going to be expensive. Even with tax rebates most will be in the thirties or higher, and you can get small gasoline powered cars that get great gas mileage for way less than thirty grand. Not many people are going to buy these electric cars at first. Also, they will be charged mostly at night rather than in the daytime when demand on the power grid is at its highest. And, it's going to be a while before we have many long range electric cars on the road. The few we will have on the road will mainly be drive around town cars without much range. People who travel a lot and take long trips, the ones who put lots of miles on their cars and use the most gas will still have to use gasoline powered vehicles. The few electric cars on the road will probably not even require full charges for the most part because those that drive them in most cases will only put a few miles on them a day driving to work and back. Even if you rarely travel except to go to work and back if you have a long commute you're probably going to want a gasoline powered car rather than an electric with a 100 mile range. You have to worry about the times when you don't charge it all the way, or when you have errands to run after work, or that your batteries’ charge capacity will go down as time goes on and your range will shrink.
I'd only want an electric car if it was a cheap little thing I only used to get around town, but I'd still want a gasoline powered vehicle for longer trips. It's expensive to have two vehicles though so it makes better sense to me to just buy decent conventional cars that get great gas mileage. We've gone from having two big SUVs to having one big SUV for my wife and the kids and a small car that gets great gas mileage that I drive and that we'll use for short trips where we don't have a lot of crap to take along. I'd consider going electric, but not if it's going to cost ten or fifteen grand more than a comparable conventional car. I'd never realize the savings in gas costs and I'd be without a small car for the long trips I need to take for work and for family trips we take now that don't require us to pack a lot of luggage and other gear. I paid less than twenty grand for my little Honda brand new. I don't think there is any way I'd come out ahead paying thirty something grand for a small electric car.
And, with my long daily commute, 100 miles per charge would only get me to work and then about half-way home every night.
I could only see buying an electric car if it was a cheapie little stripped down thing I use just to get around town. Maybe something like that would be okay to own when gas prices shoot up again and all you have is a big gas guzzling truck you use pull your boat around. You could use the tiny electric car to go too and from work and for quick trips to the store and whatnot and save the gas guzzler for when you need it. It would have to cost something like ten grand or so, not forty grand or more.
Probably not, what with Hussein the Magnificent wanting to tax all the coal fired power plants out of existence. Which is about one half of the entire national grid.
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