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To: TLI

So, the Constitutional provisions don’t apply if you get to be President by another methodology? Is that it?

And, it seems that we’ve found another “loophole” in the Constitution, then, if the Vice President does not have to be qualified under the Constitution to be President. Now.., that’s a real big loophole. It looks like there are more problems to fix with the Constitution... LOL...


944 posted on 01/02/2009 8:16:41 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler
So, the Constitutional provisions don’t apply if you get to be President by another methodology? Is that it?

No, it has to do with whether the people are paying attention or not. People pay more attention to the president than the vice-president. We're trying to focus on the president before it's too late.

Let's play this thought experiment a little further.

What if McCain won and then died in office? What would people say about how well Palin was scrutinized? The MSM focused on her children, her children's children, her husband, her clothes, her accent...

Did they ask about her birth location? Why not? Was it because they didn't doubt it, or because they knew with certainty, or because they didn't care because they felt Obama was a shoo-in, or something else? Should they have done something different regarding Palin, and Biden, than was done this time around? What should we do in 2012 to prevent these questions from arising in the future?

As Thomas Paine would say, what do we owe to Posterity?

-PJ

960 posted on 01/02/2009 8:29:20 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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To: Star Traveler
And, it seems that we’ve found another “loophole” in the Constitution, then, if the Vice President does not have to be qualified under the Constitution to be President. Now.., that’s a real big loophole. It looks like there are more problems to fix with the Constitution... LOL...

The rumors of his Canadian birth were not enough to get him impeached as the general public liked him and the Impeachment process is based upon “Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

It was however enough to produce that very rare event, an incumbent president requesting nomination by his party for reelection and not getting it.

As for a loophole? Could be. The text is very clear.

Age and Citizenship requirements - US Constitution, Article II, Section 1

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.

Term limit amendment - US Constitution, Amendment XXII, Section 1 – ratified February 27, 1951

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

I do not see the word “Vice-President” anywhere in the text. The constitution specifies the succession. Yet there is no natural born requirement for vice-President but a clear statement that the Vice-President replaces the President in case he is removed or dies.

Article II - The Presidency

Section 1 - Election, Installation, Removal

In case of the removal of the President from office, or of his death, resignation, or inability to discharge the powers and duties of the said office, the same shall devolve on the Vice President, and the Congress may by law provide for the case of removal, death, resignation or inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what officer shall then act as President, and such officer shall act accordingly, until the disability be removed, or a President shall be elected.

Additionally the 25th Amendment is not subject to any interpretation at all and represented the general opinion that Article 2 Section 1 really does mean what it states.

Amendment XXV - Presidential Succession (1967)

Section 1. In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

Sooo, the only thing I see that requires any further clarification is why do you constantly harass FReepers? Take a break, you don’t have to prove you are an azz-whole every day of your life.

1,004 posted on 01/02/2009 9:02:01 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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