roman ping.
The village of my forebearers kept one of the Legionnaire guidons captured in that famous battle. And if you have relatives from that area, it's worth looking at the history. It's basically the battle shown in the movie Gladiator, except the barbarians win this one. 40,000 Romans were put to death as Germanic soldiers trained by Rome (and that wore the uniform of Rome) led the legions to their deaths in the vast forrest.