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Honest question time - I always think about this in December, for some reason. And yes, I celebrate Christmas in December like everybody else, even though I am convinced that December 25th is not His birthday and there is no record of the Apostles celebrating His birth.

But here's my question - how do believers decide which facts are important and which ones are not? Is the only important fact in the Bible about the resurrection of Jesus and everything else is interesting to think about but unimportant?

[netmilsmom]

>>Is the only important fact in the Bible about the resurrection of Jesus and everything else is interesting to think about but unimportant?<<

If it’s in the Bible, it’s important.
Since we don’t have a birth certificate (kind of like that guy, born in Kenya who thinks he is the messiah) it doesn’t matter the date.

Sometimes it is the thought that counts!

[Uri’el-2012]

The question is whether you believe and trust
the Holy Word of Elohim in Luke 1
or you trust the traditions of man

Yah'shua's birth on Sukkot
(Sukkot is the Feast of Tabernacles or booths,
where we live in temporary shelters.
Sukkot is when YHvH took on a temporary
garment to be with His People
and to die as the Lamb of G-d on Pesach
in order to bring salvation to all
who would call on His Name: Yah'shua
( YHvH is become my salvation)).

Sukkot as the date is supported by Elizabeth's
pregnancy of John the Immerser.
The time sequence is outlined by the
Holy Word of Elohim in Luke 1 with Zacharias.

Zacharias served as a high priest and
based on his tribe, we know when he served
(1 Chronicles 24:7-18) and when he was
struck dumb and when John was conceived.

John would have been born on Pesach.
Most Jews believed that Elijah
would come at Pesach to announce
the coming of the Messiah (Malachi 4:5).

Factor in when Miriam visited her cousin Elizabeth,
Elizabeth was six months pregnant (Luke 1:26)
Thus the timing of Yah'shua's birth can be ascertained.

John (1:14) tells us that Yah'shua was made flesh
and tabernacled among us.

The word "dwelt" in the Koine Greek is:

σκηνόω Strong's G4637 - skēnoō
1) to fix one's tabernacle,
have one's tabernacle,
abide (or live) in a tabernacle (or tent),
tabernacle
2) to dwell

Eight days after the beginning of Sukkot is
another Holy Feast Day called Shemini Atzeret.

Eight days after a Jewish male is born he is circumcised.

After the Eighth day comes the the most Joyous day:
Simchat Torah or
the rejoicing in the Torah (The Word of Elohim).

Nine months back from Sukkot is Chanukah
where the light entered the temple.

Biblical Dates for the Birth of Yochanan the Immerser
and for the Conception and Birth of Yeshua HaMashiach

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

[SoftwareEngineer]

I am not arrogant enough to decide what is important and what is not. Instead I focus on what is written in the Bible and proven. The birthday of Jesus is neither noted in the Bible nor proven by historians.

So, I celebrate December 25th. It probably is wrong, but I am happy that we take atleast one day a year to acknowledge His birth.

[null and void]

Is the only important fact in the Bible about the resurrection of Jesus and everything else is interesting to think about but unimportant?

Which brings me to one of my hobby horses:

We already agree that our calendar is wrong, off by anywhere from 2 to 16 years, depending on who’s doing the reckoning, and further in error because of the absence of a year zero.

The more fundamental point is that God did not intend us to mark His years by the birth of Jesus.

If He had intended this we would have a Biblical fixing of the date.

Further, the day of Jesus’ birth is unremarkable as all men are born.

However, very few return from the dead, that event is remarkable, and it is the defining moment of Christianity, the very moment of proof that his sacrifice was not in vain. And the Bible gives a precise reference for when this happened!

Clearly this was the date the calendar was supposed to start!

For extra points, this makes our calendar off by anywhere from 17 to 30 years. That makes this something like Holy Year 1978 to Holy Year 1991, giving us anywhere from 9 to 22 years to get our affairs in order before the real end of the millennium...