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God or a multiverse?
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| December 8 2008
| Mark Vernon
Posted on 12/08/2008 11:56:24 AM PST by Soliton
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I vote for multiverse
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posted on
12/08/2008 11:56:24 AM PST
by
Soliton
To: colorcountry; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; Osage Orange; svcw; Enosh; ...
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posted on
12/08/2008 11:58:06 AM PST
by
greyfoxx39
(Tagline on vacation during the grand experiment.)
To: Soliton
OK. That article made my head hurt. I think that there is an intelligent designer.
To: Soliton
Is God limited as to his instruments? Mine isn’t...
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posted on
12/08/2008 12:00:52 PM PST
by
stefanbatory
(Do you want a President or a King?)
To: SoftwareEngineer
OK. That article made my head hurt. I think that there is an intelligent designer.Can you describe what characteristics your designer would have?
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posted on
12/08/2008 12:04:23 PM PST
by
Soliton
(This 2 shall pass)
To: Soliton
>I vote for multiverse
Are the two mutually exclusive? I mean if God says it’s His will that none should perish, who am I to say that He can’t have other Universes where He gets to save those? Likewise, who am I to berate God if THIS is the ONLY universe that exists?
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posted on
12/08/2008 12:04:54 PM PST
by
OneWingedShark
(Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
To: stefanbatory
Is God limited as to his instruments? Mine isnt...Define "God"?
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posted on
12/08/2008 12:05:29 PM PST
by
Soliton
(This 2 shall pass)
To: OneWingedShark
Are the two mutually exclusive?The article says no
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posted on
12/08/2008 12:06:21 PM PST
by
Soliton
(This 2 shall pass)
To: Soliton
God, for believers, is the condition without which science cannot even get going; divinity is a final explanation for the laws of science, as a philosopher of religion would say.So wrong on so many levels.
The possibility that the universe has directionality or purpose, even if self-contained that is, not making any appeal to an external deity has been forcefully rejected by most of modern science. But maybe the extraordinary phenomenon that is an evolving universe containing conscious observers is itself forcing science to reconsider.
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posted on
12/08/2008 12:07:56 PM PST
by
svcw
(Great selection of Christmas gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
To: Soliton; metmom
Can you describe what characteristics your designer would have? Whatever they are, they are most certainly more defining than "anything and everything happens all of the time".
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posted on
12/08/2008 12:09:17 PM PST
by
AndrewC
To: Soliton
Is there a God or a multiverse? Does modern cosmology force us to choose? We probably don't get to choose. We were not even consulted.
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posted on
12/08/2008 12:09:30 PM PST
by
RightWhale
(We were so young two years ago and the DJIA was 12,000)
To: Soliton
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline (Proverbs 1:7)
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posted on
12/08/2008 12:09:53 PM PST
by
2ndDivisionVet
(Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
To: Soliton
i dont see how a choice needs to be made. if you say the universe is unlimited in size or there are an unlimited number of universes (multiverse), then theoretically you could make the argument that every possible combination of everything has to happen - which leads to other earths with you living on them somewhere out there in the cosmos. but i can see someone thinking there is no God and there is a finite universe.
To: svcw; betty boop; Alamo-Girl
God, for believers, is the condition without which science cannot even get going; divinity is a final explanation for the laws of science, as a philosopher of religion would say. So wrong on so many levels.Actually, betty boop and alamo_girl have written a book that pretty much contends just that.
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posted on
12/08/2008 12:10:40 PM PST
by
Soliton
(This 2 shall pass)
To: Soliton
They have a right to be wrong.
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posted on
12/08/2008 12:11:20 PM PST
by
svcw
(Great selection of Christmas gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
To: AndrewC
Whatever they are, they are most certainly more defining than "anything and everything happens all of the time". I sincerely cannot see how someone can believe in something they can't even define
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posted on
12/08/2008 12:11:59 PM PST
by
Soliton
(This 2 shall pass)
To: RightWhale
We probably don't get to choose. We were not even consulted.You have snatched the pebble from my hand Grasshopper. Go and teach the uninitiated
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posted on
12/08/2008 12:14:17 PM PST
by
Soliton
(This 2 shall pass)
To: philsfan24
You just summarized the article.
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posted on
12/08/2008 12:15:21 PM PST
by
Soliton
(This 2 shall pass)
To: Soliton
LOL
So, you don’t believe in pornography? ;)
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posted on
12/08/2008 12:15:42 PM PST
by
brytlea
(You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
To: Soliton
Why couldn’t God have created the multiverse?
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posted on
12/08/2008 12:16:01 PM PST
by
Terpfen
(Ain't over yet, folks. Those 2004 Senate gains are up for grabs in 2 years.)
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