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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Nonsense. Nobody said that Obama’s citizenship would be in question. Only his status as “natural born”.

Your nickname and argument are beginning to look a lot like shallow and expendient liberal coming here to argue. That’s ok, but understand, the lack of intellectual honesty in your argument is obvious.


56 posted on 12/08/2008 3:24:36 AM PST by The Watcher
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To: The Watcher
Nonsense. Nobody said that Obama’s citizenship would be in question. Only his status as “natural born”.

The argument I have been making, over and over again, in this thread is that there has never been a class of citizens who were (a) citizens from the moment of birth and (b) not natural-born citizens. That I am aware of, the only legal distinction that has ever been drawn between different types of citizens have been naturalized citizens and natural-born citizens. There has never been any sort of in-between, third type of citizen, as you seem to be suggesting Obama is.

Your nickname and argument are beginning to look a lot like shallow and expendient liberal coming here to argue. That’s ok, but understand, the lack of intellectual honesty in your argument is obvious.

It is one thing to disagree with me - that is perfectly legitimate, and to be expected. Seeing as how the Constitution does not define the term "natural-born citizen," it is understandable that different people would look at the available information and come to different conclusions.

It is another thing to call me intellectually dishonest and imply that I'm a liberal. Not everything is a liberal-conservative thing. Two reasonable conservatives can, and it looks like in this case have, look at the same information and draw opposite conclusions. I have approached this discussion with nothing but honesty and my best judgment, having read the materials available to me.

To be honest, I wish you were right - I worry about what Obama's presidency will do to this country, and would love nothing more than to see him kicked out of office. However, I do believe that he is Constitutionally qualified to serve as President, and so I am not willing to undertake a Constitutional argument that I believe is incorrect, simply to achieve the (admirable) goal of preventing Obama from becoming President.

60 posted on 12/08/2008 3:38:22 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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