[allmendream]

I did not say chance events point to the designing mind of God. I pointed out that what we perceive to be “random” is, according to the Bible, all under the control of God.

You attempted to set up a dichotomy. Either things developed according to God's plan, or things developed from random evolution. There is no “random” when dealing with God and God's plans.

The flagellum developed from a type II secretory system, as was apparently God's plan, the flagellum is in no way shape or form “irreducibly complex”.

[Ethan Clive Osgoode]

I did not say chance events point to the designing mind of God.

Ya, you did. You said they were teleological. Surely you don't believe that chance events are designed by aliens.

So, does intelligible order in nature point to design, or is it just chance events that point to design?

The flagellum developed from a type II secretory system, as was apparently God's plan

Does the flagellum manifest teleology, or is it just chance events that manifest teleology, according to you?