Posted on 10/20/2008 3:44:51 AM PDT by Stoat
Locked on ... Sabre jet had UFO in sights
RAF controllers told US pilot Milton Torres to “lock on” and launch all 24 of his rockets over the city.
Tale ... Milton Torres as a young man, and today
But as he came within seconds of firing at the alien intruder — “the size of an aircraft carrier” on his radar — it vanished at 10,000mph.
The amazing close encounter is revealed in secret Ministry of Defence X-Files which are declassified today.
Milton said: “It was some kind of alien snooping over England. I guess we’ll never know what it was.”
The incident happened in 1957 when Milton was a 26-year-old US Air Force lieutenant based at RAF Manston in Kent.
At 11pm one night he was ordered to scramble in his F-86D Sabre fighter to attack a “bogey” hovering above Norfolk.
Speaking about it publicly for the first time, he said: “I was told I would be firing a complete salvo, all 24 rockets. I was pumped up — this was the sort of thing that happened before a war.”
He got the UFO on his radar and closed for the attack at the Sabre’s top speed of almost 700mph — then it disappeared off his screen in a flash.
Milton, now 77, said: “I was smoking, as fast as I could go. This thing had a different propulsion system. It was not an airplane.”
The flyer said he was visited afterwards by a sinister security official and warned not to tell anyone — so he kept silent until now.
The close encounter is in 19 files made available online yesterday by the National Archives.
One of these crashed in Australia in 1964.
Best UFO evidence so far.
Hmmmmm . . .
It has been interesting . . . IIRC . . . when asking Stanton F about nuclear propulsion of flying craft . . . he can be uncharacteristically vague.
Posted this link in another thread...and throwing it on here as well.
Interesting stuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Tehran_UFO_Incident
Quix, do you have a web site on which I can read more? I’d not heard that there were so many incidents and I’d never heard about planes vanishing without a trace. In regard to the commercial liners gone missing. These too without a trace? Passengers or empty? Very curious.
I have no idea what your rant is about, or why you addressed it to me.
I suggest you step away from the keyboard and get back on your meds.
It’s not the military personnel...it’s those laymen putting their own colored perceptions on what they saw...Not to mention we have the example of the “foo fighters” from WWII.
Did he make visual contact with the contact? Or did he only have it on radar? Weather conditions? His speed? Was there an unscheduled test? Was something re-entering from space?
Not at all saying he was wrong...but the automatic assumption it was little green men is just a bit too damn pat for me.
Hey, I won’t argue the Drake equation...Carl Sagan...don’t get me started on how flawed his work on TTAPS was. I even love sci-fi. I just am not convinced Aliens are visiting us and grabbing people in the middle of the night and/or mutilating cows, or even playing tag with the world’s air forces. Yeah, I am a skeptic..sue me.
Sorry, I don’t have a website with a lot of UFO stuff on it. A minor amount but not about those incidents.
MUFON
CUFOS
and the like
MIGHT have more of that. I’m sure ATS does.
You’ll have to search, though.
My replies come out of all the years of reading since 1962. All mushed together.
I don’t recall whether any airliners totally disappeared, or not. Just that some were downed . . . evidently in fairly quick retaliation for UFO’s being targeted.
It was such a rare opportunity,
I had to go hog wild on the response.
The elderberry for the chest congestion along with Zicam and garlic should help in due course.
And tumeric.
And rest and OJ.
But thanks for such touching concern about my meds.
The automatic assumption that he couldn’t have or most likely didn’t know what he was talking about is just tooooo cheekily pat, for me.
The airliners had passengers.
Not necessarily and the nose gear wouldn't be spinning prior to touchdown on landing, which is what is happening; note deployed speed brakes.
Early jet fighters with sliding canopies were able to be flown with the canopy slid back and it was fairly common during landings and takeoffs when egress systems weren't as reliable or capable as they are now.
Evidently I have gone way overboard trying to make a screaming point about any flavor of naysayer EVER admitting ANY kind of error so ranted way beyond warranted in response to one of your posts.
I understand now that you are not really that kind of naysayer at all and that you primarily are good at setting air craft specifics to right.
Thanks for helping me see my ERROR, my WRONG, my misperception. Blessings,
Thanks.
Please take a look at #128 ...
I’ll withdraw the objections, but the picture still bugs me.
Are you referring to the first picture with the canopy closed upon landing? Opening or closing the canopy was at the discretion of the pilot.
Do an image search, with your favourite search engine, on < f86 landing > (or similar terms). There seem to be more takeoff than landing pictures, for whatever reason. Pictures from the 1950s all have the canopy closed.
Opening or closing the canopy was at the discretion of the pilot.
Your images are all Navy. Were USN and USAF practice the same?
Here are a couple more samples (check tail no. on the second ;')):
BTW, the actual report makes for very interesting reading.
The report was filed quite a bit later than the actual event but it is clear that the pilot and ground control knew what was being targeted was a "bogey". Also, the reason the pilot couldn't see the target was because his craft was enveloped in thick fog which reduced visibility to zero.
Here's the link...THUMBNAILS.
THX THX
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