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A REVOLUTION BEFORE MORNING
HIGH TRUE WITH TOMAS | O3 OCTOBER 2008 | TOMASUSMC

Posted on 10/03/2008 11:51:12 AM PDT by TomasUSMC

A REVOLUTION BEFORE MORNING!

3 out of 4 Americans realize that the banks are raping America, they call and write and fax and threaten to vote against their representatives in our Government.

Americans see bailout after bailout after bailout....

25billion FORD GMC ..wasn’t enough, need more 30billion BEAR .....wasn’t enough, need more 85billion AIG .....wasn’t enough, need more 138billion LEHMAN...wasn’t enough, need more(they tried to hide that one) 200billion FANNIES...wasn’t enough, need more 300billion House RESCUE PLAN Bush signed set to take affect on October 1st. 850billion WHO ELSE? and no one will ask the question,” Will this be the last dollar we have to spend”? .... ...........Because it won’t be. Will it WORK? Now one knows. How many experts were called to testify? NONE! But we are going to STEAL from Americans $850 billion, MORE THAN 5 percent of our gross domestic product?

Americans see that hundreds of billions of dollars have ALREADY been sent to FOREIGN BANKS, and now HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS MORE, will go to FOREIGN BANKS!

.......the Fed announced $630 billion in new central bank credits Monday, >>>half of it to central banks abroad<<<. HALF! OF IT TO CENTRAL BANKS A B R O A D!?!?!?

Americans see that despite their scare tactics the banks are full of cash, they see

The banks are awash in cash! Latest Observations: Date 2008-07-30 2008-08-13 2008-08-27 2008-09-10 2008-09-24 Value 870.642 870.761 869.905 874.750 939.472

The five biggest U.S. securities firms paid $36 billion to employees last year.

Americans see same banks that lie about a credit crisis:

the amount of all bank credit at all commercial banks, which is reported weekly. For the most recent week reported, the one that ended on September 9, this credit amounted to $9,406 billion, which is only slightly less than the all-time peak of $9,485 reached in the week that ended on March 26, 2008

American remember that these are the same banks that charge them one hundred dollars in fines when Americans make a 5 dollar mistake in their check book.

"Gentlemen, I have had men watching you for a long time and I am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves..... I intend to rout you out and by the Eternal God I will rout you out. If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system, there would be a revolution before morning.” —Andrew Jackson,

Americans see there must be:

A REVOLUTION BEFORE MORNING

Take your money back from the banks and stocks AND A SPINELESS GOVERNMENT OF VIPERS AND THIEVES..... .......................BEFORE MORNING


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To: TomasUSMC
I heard Pelosi say the passing of this bill marks "a new era of accountability."

Right. The woman sounds dead inside.

And Dodd and Frank will continue holding the industry accountable just as they have been. Now, where's that campaign contribution? Transfer it to that account over there. Thank you.

And Wrangel is still Ways and Means chairman. Most ethical congress in history.

There will be no end to this, until we're bankrupted.

21 posted on 10/03/2008 12:13:03 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: henkster
I tend to agree with you that there is something out there we are not being told about. But that “something” may just be that the world is waking up to the realization that the Federal Reserve Notes that we Americans mistakenly consider real money is nothing more than debt instruments....IOU Nothing...as one wag put it. That most of our so-called “wealth” is in instruments of debt ( bonds) and pieces of paper with fluctuating values according to the mood of the market ( stocks ) or, worse yet, loans to banks ( demand deposits )is a secret so dark that even to think about what that would mean if we all understood it might be what is frightening out political leaders. That may be the dark secret Paulson told the president.....if the people ever see that their money is bogus and their wealth an illusion we are all dead men. Sadly, it is true but few realize it just yet. But when the country does there will be hell to pay and lamposts may be used for something else then lamps. It's happened before in other countries when the people realize they have been robbed !
22 posted on 10/03/2008 12:14:33 PM PDT by mick
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To: pgkdan

How much could it be? Perot did it. It’s the last month..he has the money.


23 posted on 10/03/2008 12:18:10 PM PDT by Hildy ("We do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.")
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To: Hildy

I would even be willing to donate money for that!


24 posted on 10/03/2008 12:18:58 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: stuartcr
I’m betting the revolution doesn’t happen.

I'm with ya. Like said above "these spinless bankers". No the spinless are the sheeple who get kicked all over the nation & vote the same A-holes back in. They will come Nov & the next & the next...............

25 posted on 10/03/2008 12:20:00 PM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: Borges

What is the daily max cash withdrawal allowed currently in neighborhood banks?


26 posted on 10/03/2008 12:22:08 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: alfadog

Just joined the other day so you could amplify any negatives your operatives could generate? Bwahahahaha, alfa indeed! Agitprop pup


27 posted on 10/03/2008 12:23:27 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: henkster

Ya think?

(sarcasm NOT directed at you...)


28 posted on 10/03/2008 12:29:26 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Typical Whitey Gramma just like Obamies!)
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To: mick

There is only one way out of this morass, and it has several strings: the only thing we have to pay our debts is our natural resources (which include our genius for technology development), but if we are going to open them up for the exploitation needed to pay our debts and make us net energy exporters, we have to get rid of the democrat party controls which pander to the enviro wackos and secular commies, and open up the field to allow not only drilling and building of refineries, but open up research fields which show promise for technologies to end our dependence upon liquid petroleum products. The morass of regulations democrats have put into law to placate their wacko constituencies must be swept aside and a different way to oversee production, building, and research must be put in the place of the Democrat’s present Gordian Knot.


29 posted on 10/03/2008 12:31:47 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: henkster

I agree. The morning after McCain’s aye in the Senate, I called the campaign, at the national level, to ask just exactly how I was supposed to explain his sudden love of pork to the “undecided”.
The woman I spoke with, agreed with me TOTALLY, and said that many there shared our view. She then went on to say that McCain was absolutely immovable in his belief that something had to be done, and done quick. She went on to state, that she felt that he knew something, we did not : |

Tatt


30 posted on 10/03/2008 12:34:54 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: thesearethetimes...

Correction - “...she felt that he knew something, that we did not.”

Tatt


31 posted on 10/03/2008 12:37:14 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: thesearethetimes...

For right now, I think the foreign banks are content to buy Federal Debt, because with that they can buy American policy and/or military protection, if they want it.

Bad mortgage debt is worth less (not quite worthless, but worth less). The bailout is to have our government replace that debt with Treasury debt. Our government becomes more beholden to foreign powers, they balance their books and don’t have to worry about messy American mortgage foreclosures.

What do the Saudis gain? Assurance that we never become energy independent. What do the Chinese gain? The need not worry that their predatory economic practices will be tampered with.

There is a historical precedent for this type of behavior. Go check out the history of “The Opium War.” We are the helpless giant, addicted to our debt.


32 posted on 10/03/2008 12:45:48 PM PDT by henkster (There's nothing wrong with the economy that an expensive bailout can't prolong.)
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To: MHGinTN

You’re right of course. But getting rid of the Dems is a real problem.
Like the old saw about the mice figuring out how to save themselves from the cat. Put a bell on him! Except who is going to “bell the Cat” is the question?
Your analogy of the Gordian Knot is an apt one. I know you remember that Alexander didn’t untie it...he cut it with his sword !
IMHO the Gordian Knot today is the Federal Government itself . It really doesn’t matter anymore who is running it...the power there is distructive of Liberty. The power of Federal State must be destroyed. And the only way that I see in doing that is to deny it revenue. As Burke said “ The revenue of the State IS the State”. First we destroy the Fed and then we go after the Tax system...destroy the Power of the Feds over the money supply and we destroy their power to create money and thereby reward their friends and punish their enemies. We just saw the raw power of the money interests in this bailout battle. And the people lost!


33 posted on 10/03/2008 12:46:53 PM PDT by mick
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To: TomasUSMC

I feel like the printing presses must be glowing red hot running continuously 24 hours a day. “Ah-nold” now wants the feds to “loan” him 7 billion to bail out “Kali-forn-ia.”

I’d like to see a new list of legislators and see who flipped. I understand the Congressional Black Caucus flipped after calls from Obama. I guess they are just establishing for him how things are going to be. I’m pretty sure my rep didn’t. If he did, he better not come back to PA.

I don’t think this is going to end well.


34 posted on 10/03/2008 12:48:24 PM PDT by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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To: henkster

Frightening parallel. I actually do remember reading an article about that, with Great Britain flooding China with opium.
And I also can hear my Dad grousing about the turn the country was making, from production to consumption... a very long time ago.

Tatt : \


35 posted on 10/03/2008 1:04:42 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: MHGinTN; mick

True, but if there is any silver lining to the votes from the Senate, and the House this week, it was that the votes were NOT party line. If we can begin to find some commonality with the Dems that voted no on this bill, maybe we can nurture a little old time independent thought amongst them.

Start systematically throwing out the career politicians on BOTH sides, and start growing a generation of statesmen.
That is my kind of bi-partisanship.

Tatt


36 posted on 10/03/2008 1:14:22 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: thesearethetimes...
That would be encouraging if it were not for the fact that nearly a dozen democrats on Bawney Fwank's finance committe who crafted the extortion bill voted against passage just to manipulate the voters from their districts!

Democrat lie, all the time. They can NEVER be trusted.

Pelosi even told the dems in touchy districts that she was giving them cover to vote against so they could tell their voters they didn't support the very bill they crafted! Democrats believe voters are so stupid that they will not check these facts ... and damn it, that IS the case!

I mean, how does a long dead voter check current events?

When did Mickey Mouse, or Dick Tracy care how a congresscritter voted on a bill? Those are voter names placed on registration forms ACORN has generated in battleground states.

Who would expect an ACORN sycophant to have ethics?

Why would dole-based voters want to know how the "D" representative voted on bills when the democrat voter doesn't even know who the legislator is unless there is a letter after the name?

Giving cover to two-faced democrats is why Nazi Pelosi was so desperate to get enough Republicans to vote for this extortion. Soon, the democrats will have so degenerated the nation that cover won't even be necessary since democrat voters won't care how the "D" voted on bills if the dole keeps flowing.

37 posted on 10/03/2008 1:28:14 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Thank you for the education : / I had heard about Pelosi’s offer on the House vote earlier this week, but thought that she had been burned by the rejection, and would pressure all to vote for it this time...

So it goes. We just will have to start at the top, and work our way down then.


38 posted on 10/03/2008 1:36:05 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: Hildy

I don’t know that he has the money, I hope so because this is something he really should do.


39 posted on 10/03/2008 2:53:25 PM PDT by pgkdan
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To: MHGinTN

My operatives? I’m sorry, I consider socialism a pretty negative thing, especially when my government is running full steam ahead to endorse it. Do you understand the ramifications of that vote today? Did you see today when Wells Fargo trumped the Government/Citi Group buyout?! Here we have a private entity (not government owned), step in and pay the shareholders more than the govt./Citi deal and take us the tax payers off the hook for the losses the govt. was going to pick up for Citi Group; and now govt/Citi are trying to make Wells Fargo go away...lol. You don’t find that odd? You don’t find it odd that all this crap just happened to come out a couple of months before the election? You don’t find it odd that it was sold as financial Armageddon to us, and yet the Senate found a way to tag a bunch of additional crap onto it? You don’t find it odd that the market traded in a 486 point range today, towards the negative side? I’m sure the dummies that voted for that bill today were a little perplexed with seeing the markets reaction to their statesman like passing of the biggest socialistic program ever implemented by a government.

Sorry, as far as being negative, here’s where I may differ from you. I don’t believe the bill of goods that the Fed and the Treasury is selling to the American people. I don’t believe there will be any financial Armageddon if the government would just get out of the way of the markets. Hmmmm, look what happened, Wachovia got so cheap, that another publicly traded company stepped in and bought them, without the governments help! Wow, could it be that the free market really works? And how about that Warren Buffet guy. Just when the Fed was telling us that there is no credit out there (which is an absolute lie!), in steps a private investor and buys 5 billion of Goldman preferred stock and 3 billion of GE preferred stock. Guess what! There’s a lot of money still out there that will step in and take care of the enema that Wall Street now needs. Many companies deserve to fail and fade away into bankruptcy, my country is not one of them! Right now my country is being run as a company; a very poorly run company! They can dress this up however they want and tell us how much we need this bailout for our own financial security, blah blah, blah... Bottom line is it’s socialism and I sort of hoped there were more patriots serving in congress and the senate, that would’ve burried that travesty, pork filled, un-necessary, piece of socialistic crap! I think McCain could’ve been a true maverick and walked away with this election, by opposing this thing from the start. Somebody better wake McCain up, it’s painful to watch him let opportunity after opportunity pass. This non-partisan crap that he’s going to ride out isn’t working; and I’m sick of the democrats and the main stream media trying to hang it solely around the Republican’s necks, with barely a word from anyone to fedend ourselves. Consensus is just another name for allowing bad ideas to be included with good ideas. Look at the bloated crap we just got sold under the umbrella of consensus. Sorry if that sounds so negative to you, I’ve never quite been a fan of socialism. But hey, let me clear this all with my operatives first...lol.


40 posted on 10/03/2008 7:13:57 PM PDT by alfadog (I won't vote for the first time and cry as I see my country buy into all out socialism!)
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