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To: tpanther; valkyry1; Fichori; Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; Arthur Wildfire! March; betty boop; ...
I keep hearing how science must be kept pure from religion and how God must be sterlized out of the discussion, and yet, when you point out science doesn’t and can’t coherently “care” about God one way or another, we always circle back to the disbelief cult as the “only” scientific starting point as if this is the neutral position of science.

Not to mention that those same scientists who claim that determining the existence of God is beyond the purview of science then go on to mock and ridicule faith in that same supernatural that they say they can't determine the existence of.

If it's beyond the scope of science to determine, they have no business dictating that it's not real, that it's not valid, that it's not true, that it's just superstition, or passing value judgments on the believers in any extra natural phenomena.

It certainly calls the scientists objectivity into question when they so decisively make absolute pronouncements about subject areas of which they are admittedly ignorant by self-imposed fiat.

The biggest laugh is the feigned innocence when they are called on their agenda. *We can't make any determination of the supernatural because it's outside the scope of science, you rednecked, knuckle dragging, talabani, believers in bronze age goat herder fairy tales*.

65 posted on 10/01/2008 5:30:08 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Not only that, even the scientific method requires faith. It requires faith that what we detect with our senses reflects reality. It also requires faith that our universe is governed by laws that are predictable. Modern science certainly didn’t get this faith from atheism or pantheism. They got it from the Judeo-Christian tradition.


67 posted on 10/01/2008 9:01:38 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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