Jews and Their DNA

Commentary Magazine ^ | Sept, 2008 | Hillel Halkin

[SunkenCiv]

Helix the Cat (some image search hits):

http://www.tomstudio.com/peopleAtPlay.html
http://flickr.com/photos/13939788@N00/78121136
http://flickr.com/photos/13939788@N00/78121138
http://flickr.com/photos/13939788@N00/78121143
http://flickr.com/photos/13939788@N00/78123100
http://flickr.com/photos/eighty-two/2529616170/

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Geneticists Report Finding Central Asian Link to Levites
New York Times | September 27, 2003 | Nicholas Wade
Posted on 09/26/2003 8:08:09 PM PDT by Destro
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/990414/posts

The Lemba (The Black Jews Of Southern Africa)
The Free Man Institute | 3-14-2005
Posted on 03/14/2005 6:53:09 PM PST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1362872/posts

The Genetic Bonds Between Kurds and Jews
Barzan (Kurdish Newspaper) | 4 May 06 | Kevin Brook
Posted on 05/04/2006 7:03:48 AM PDT by white trash redneck
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1626606/posts

After millennia in India, lost tribe returns to Israel
Asia News | 09-30-2006 | Asia News
Posted on 09/30/2006 2:42:52 PM PDT by Traianus
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1711367/posts

Russian archaeologists find long-lost Jewish capital
AFP | Sept. 3, 2008
Posted on 09/03/2008 9:26:26 AM PDT by Alouette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2073813/posts

[SunkenCiv]

I don't know what anyone is talking about, so here's a picture of a rabbi with a pancake on his yarmulke:

[Jessarah]

So...does this mean they’ll never be able to find the original mtDNA genetic code for Jewish women? Seems like there would be some group of women somewhere who’ve stayed Jewish for a few thousand years since Aaron. I guess the problem would be figuring out which is the “pure” strand and which isn’t.

[wardaddy]

the purity of Jewish blood is sometimes extremely contentious for some if not many Jews....especially chicken soup mamas who you mess with at yer peril I’ve learned the hard way

i have often found it hypocritical that many Jews obsess with who’s Jewish enough and get really riled over the Khazar claims

but yet, many Jews are at the vanguard of racial mixing and the dilution of anyone else’s heritage....advocacy wise....the anti-pluralist message applied to race and ethnicity

hell, we’re all hypocrites sometimes I reckon...I know I am

I think Jewish pride in their blood heritage staying intact in laudable but it brings up the old goose and gander argument for me anyhow.

I never really noticed this until I lived in NYC, down South it was different with the tribe.

[Eleutheria5]

This discipline also ought to establish who is and is not a descendant of King David, and of the tribe of Levi, both very important sub-groups within the Jewish Community. Conceivably, the entire Jewish nation could be sorted into the original 12 tribes. Only wild cards are the mideival Khazar empire of Eastern Europe, whose king and a great number of subjects converted to Judaism in the 11th Century C.E., as well as the aforementioned wandering bachelors and their shiksas.

[Pharmboy]

Indeed. For a group that has been around as long as this one, admixture is a sure thing. I, for one, know this first hand. Although a Jew of European origins, my Y-chromosome is pure Celtic. Who knew? ;-)

[Clemenza]

Although a Jew of European origins, my Y-chromosome is pure Celtic. Who knew?

The celts migrated to various parts of Europe, including Galicia ("land of the Celts") in southern Poland, which had a large Jewish population for hundreds of years.

I've been meaning to have my DNA tested for years. I have suspected Roma (gypsy) ancestry on the Polish side of my family for some time. If one took a DNA sample of the average Pole, they would probably find Celtic, Semitic, Roma, Armenian (Poland had a sizeable Armenian population that assimilated), Mongolian, and Tatar DNA.

[Clemenza]

This has come up for discussion with certain elderly Jewish friends of mine who were veterans of the Civil Rights movement. Basically, they will argue that they see no problem with folks marrying "their own kind", but that others should have the freedom to mix if they want to. I share the same attitude (being something of a miscegenatist myself, I have no problem if folks want to "keep it in the tribe" whether that be Chinese, Jewish, or plain old white American).

I can honestly say that blue collar Catholics of Italian/Polish/Irish ancestry were were resistant to both neighborhood integration (due to the parochial constraints of their faith) and interracial dating than any white people outside of the south. You really don't see any interracial couples on Staten Island to this day.

[Pharmboy]

I had known about Galicia in Poland, but never knew its origins. VERY interesting...thanks for the info.

[wardaddy]

Tatar DNA.

Say it ain't so....

[Coleus]

thanks for the ping.