[Soliton]

Just out of curiosity have you even looked at the fact that this is a philosophical argument at best.... and one that would fail in logical testing............

It is a scientific discussion on my side because I require evidence to form an opinion. You will note that all of the evidence offered has come from me. Everyone else just spouts undefended opinions

[zimfam007]

So I am assuming that you are of the belief that there is no philosophy in science......... and I would beg to differ with you ... I have seen no evidence of your so called evidence... to merely state that the existence of genes and the evidence of natural selection means that evolution exists is quite a feeble attempt at best.........