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To: Dog Gone
I don't think it's the federal government's responsibility to get involved in schools at all,...

I agree with that.

Liberals and their evolutionist allies (not all) however are extremely zealous concerning centralized, top-down control of public schools and bring the big government public school trump card into every thread.

It is almost their ultimate pat hand, just short of a liberal judicial straight flush.

180 posted on 08/02/2008 4:21:03 PM PDT by OriginalIntent (Undo the ACLU revision of the Constitution. If you agree with the ACLU revisions, you are a liberal)
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To: OriginalIntent

I agree with that, and an appeal that THIS IS THE LAW is no longer an argument about what should be taught. It’s true, but it’s a different and largely irrelevant reason.

It would be like a conservative here arguing that the DC gun laws must be enforced because they are the law.

Well, no. The teaching of evolution must hinge on whether it’s the best science available, and certainly in the abstract, nobody could plausibly argue that we shouldn’t teach that. But the argument strays from that issue all the time, and that’s the problem.


182 posted on 08/02/2008 4:30:13 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: OriginalIntent
Liberals and their evolutionist allies (not all) however are extremely zealous concerning centralized, top-down control of public schools and bring the big government public school trump card into every thread.
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Even if school districts were the size of a suburban subdivision there would still be freedom of conscience issues and First Amendment violations.

A voting mob of neighbors has the right to tax his neighbor to support his government established religious worldview ( godless or God-centered) that may be utter abhorrent to him. A voting mob of neighbors has the power of police to force his neighbor's child into government holding pens. The children are then ordered by the government to shut up, and forbidden freedom of press, free assembly, and free expression of religion. Since education can never be religiously neutral the children are subjected to a constant and continuous government religious worldview.

Even tiny compulsory, police enforced government school districts are an abomination. Everyone of them is a freedom of conscience and First Amendment nightmare every minute of every government indoctrination day.

196 posted on 08/02/2008 7:05:41 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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