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To: Soliton
formulated and tested on the basis of evidence, internal consistency, and their explanatory power

Evolutionism fails to meet the first criterium, and the latter two criteria are the product of ignorance about the validity of philosophical presuppositions.

Evolution, self-admittedly, deals with suppositions which cannot be reproduced experimentally, since the events in question (i.e. macroevolution) are not currently being observed, and are presumed to have occurred sometimes hundreds of millions of years in the past. Evolutionists resort to "experimentation" which is circular in reasoning, seeking to reproduce what they "think" happened, by engineering experimentation around the foregone conclusion of the results they seek to validate. That is scientifically invalid, even if it is politically acceptable to evolutionists. There is therefore no actual "basis on evidence" for evolution. Just a lot of suppositions, wild guesses, ridiculous arguments from homology, and extrapolation from the evidence of horizontal change to the supposition of vertical change.

Even leaving aside the questionable assumption that evolutionism is self-cohesive, "internal consistency" is not necessarily a hallmark that something is true. There are many, many philosophies which are "internally consistent" that none of us here would accept as true, merely because they are internally consistent.

"Explanatory power" is also not an evidence for truth of a proposition. Ptolemy's geocentric model had "explanatory power", but was obviously not true. The theories about aether and phlogiston had explanatory power, but were not true. "Explanatory power" indicates a that one has produced a theory only, not experimental verification or "science".

13 posted on 08/02/2008 9:01:50 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Explain this:

“Here we present a draft genome sequence of the common chimpanzee (Pan troglodytes). Through comparison with the human genome, we have generated a largely complete catalogue of the genetic differences that have accumulated since the human and chimpanzee species diverged from our common ancestor, constituting approximately thirty-five million single-nucleotide changes, five million insertion/deletion events, and various chromosomal rearrangements. We use this catalogue to explore the magnitude and regional variation of mutational forces shaping these two genomes, and the strength of positive and negative selection acting on their genes. In particular, we find that the patterns of evolution in human and chimpanzee protein-coding genes are highly correlated and dominated by the fixation of neutral and slightly deleterious alleles. We also use the chimpanzee genome as an outgroup to investigate human population genetics and identify signatures of selective sweeps in recent human evolution.”


16 posted on 08/02/2008 9:06:26 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Evolutionism fails to meet the first criterium, and the latter two criteria are the product of ignorance about the validity of philosophical presuppositions.

Do you have a degree in science, or are these just your suppositions?

17 posted on 08/02/2008 9:06:50 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
the events in question (i.e. macroevolution) are not currently being observed

OK, that's one. Where'd they get the other eleven for the OJ jury? ("We didn't see it happen; therefore, he's innocent.")

55 posted on 08/02/2008 9:47:37 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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