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To: aMorePerfectUnion
“Why in the world do you think evangelicals should violate
their consciences to vote for a cultist?? For what purpose?
Has it occurred to you that their reasons for casting their
own votes are theirs alone and not yours?”

I know of other “cults” and these same “Evangelicals” had NO problem voting them in office. Has it ever occurred to YOU, that we need a man with a brain - McPain lacks that. We need a man that can turn this country around - because McPain will destroy it. Has it EVER occurred to YOU,to start ACTING like a “Christian”? EVER? Or is that only reserved for Sunday?

“It seems that there is bigotry among Mitt supporters like
you, that insist their way is the only right way and
condemn the religious convictions of everyone else as wrong.”

I am not a Mormon. I would NEVER, EVER take out a full page add in a paper, as the Evangelicals did and spew HATE and Bigotry all over as the Evangelicals did. The very thought of Mitt as a VP caused the Evangelicals to show their TRUE COLORS! They HATE others. They selecively “pray” for others yet on Sunday, one can only hope that there might be a few kin words to pray for the unsaved - like Miit. Guess that's not Biblical to Evangelicals. Their modus operandus is HATE and REJECTION of the unsaved. Notice the hypocrisy? Notice how your actions don't follow that of Christ? Notice how you are just a “sinner” too? Who knows if YOU are saved ... only YOU know that but I ask you, does a “saved sinner” have such a haughty attitude and one of you're not good enough and bigotry? My Bible doesn't tell me that. Guess we don't have the same religion - I;m Bible based not HATE based.

“Pure Mittgotry.”

No, pure bigotry and hypocrisy on your part. Your actions and words tell me what kind of a “Christian” Evangelicals are.

Don't you know, that when or maybe I should say IF you are a Christian, when “one member of the body offends” it affects the whole body? It does. People look at your bigotry and hypocrisy and want no parts of Christianity, even if it is FALSE. You spoil it for the rest of us that don't have that affliction - hatred and bigotry and announce it no less and call themselves “Christians” and Evangelicals. If I were unsaved, I'd want no part of THAT KIND OF CHRISTIANITY.

20 posted on 07/15/2008 11:20:48 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

You know, I appreciate your post for a couple of reasons. I am married to a really great Mormon. She’s the mother of our child and she’s my companion. Sure we’ve had our ups and downs, but you know, we’ve stuck it out. Out of curiosity, I’ve been following many “Mormon” or Mormon themed threads. My background does not include a strong belief in religion, I’ve been doing much soul searching and reading, but nothing has really “struck” me yet.

I’ve been learning alot about the religion that I didn’t otherwise know and it’s been enlightening from both perspectives. However, I must agree with your sentiments. The lack of decorum in those threads turns me off completely. My grandfather is a Southern Baptist and when he found out I married a Mormon, his “gift” to us was a book called “The Godmakers”.

Now any Mormon will tell you how insulting and incorrect the book is and a non Mormon will tell you how truthful the book is. The point is, there was never a chance for my wife to have any type of “normal” relationship with my grandfather and it hurt us both, me because she was hurt and her because he did what he did. My grandmother on the other hand embraced my wife and my grandfather played it close to the vest which made it a bit easier in the passing years.

She treated my wife like a grandaughter and it made a world of difference to us. What she said or did in private, I don’t know or care. All I know is she at least did the right thing and did not declare her personal religious objections to my wife. My wife and I made it a point to never discuss religion with them. We are family after all. No point in widening the rifts.

However, once my grandmother passed this past year, my grandfather has decided to show his hand. He actually encouraged me to leave my wife because she was a Mormon and he was scared for me. What does one do or say to that? (rhetorically speaking) I am not going to leave my wife over religion, it didn’t matter to me when I met her, it doesn’t matter to me now and I suspect it won’t matter to me for the rest of our lives.

Why do I spill my heart out? To show you and all the others that the words “spoken” do have an effect on those of us who may be interested in learning the truth but will not compromise basic human decency or disregard the basic Christian tenet to “Love one another” in the name of religion.

I will not ever investigate the Southern Baptist or Baptist church because of what my grandfather did. I believe he did what he did out of the bidding, training, education, or whatever of the Baptist church. I don’t believe that is Christ’s message. As you state, Christ said to love one another (paraphrased). Not just on Sunday.

Sure there is alot wrong with the Mormons, their own scriptures say some pretty damning things against others which causes much angst and animosity. Every person is imperfect, every church is imperfect. I believe the whole point is for each individual to earnestly strive to learn and follow the principles Christ taught.

I’m sure the folks who are constantly “battling” (I use the term loosely) regarding Mormonism will have some really helpful and insightful remarks or comments about what I’ve posted, some have in the past and it only served to prove what I already suspected. No compassion, no love.

Thanks for your post, well said.

FRegards,
SZ


23 posted on 07/15/2008 12:11:36 PM PDT by SZonian (I'm a Canal Zone brat)
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To: nmh
So you are saying if part of the “body” offends cut it out and you are claiming to be part of the body...and I find your tirade pretty offensive does that mean..........
32 posted on 07/15/2008 1:02:24 PM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: nmh
I would NEVER, EVER take out a full page add in a paper, as the Evangelicals did and spew HATE and Bigotry all over as the Evangelicals did.

Do you have any details? Links? I really don't think it is fair to paint Evangelicals with such a broad brush. Dr. Dobson, for instance, would not even endorse Hucksterbee until Romeny dropped out of the race.

Huckabee pretty well cooked his own goose when he lost South Carolina, which should have been a cakewalk. Romney pulled out his campaign organization there to clear the deck for Fred Thompson who, sadly, was unable to take advantage of it. So it was essentially a contest between McCain and Huckabee. And Huckabee still lost on evangelical home turf.

Yes, there are screaming moonbats among the evangelicals. But they are nowhere near a majority. It may seem that way because the moonbat clique makes up in volume what they lack in numbers. But it ain't what it seems.

Most of the evangelicals I know are decent, respectful people like Dr. Dobson.

42 posted on 07/15/2008 3:39:54 PM PDT by Vigilanteman
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