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To: Yomin Postelnik
The main point is that we’ve found a plethora of clearly ape fossils and clearly human ones and nothing of substance in between (whereas, if evolution had occured, the numbers of each group would be similar, there’d actually, in all probability, be more transition ones than ape and there’d definite be more than just a few deformed,inconclusive ones). Even evolutionists debate the validity of the ergaster classification and many consider it less of an offshoot and more of a decomposed figure of an Australopithecus.

There is a lot of debate of the various features of H. ergaster precisely because it is intermediate (a transitional). If it was either fully Homo or fully Australopithecus there would not be such a debate.

These intermediate traits qualify ergaster as a transitional, and nothing creationists have come up with has changed that. Now, you may not consider it as a transitional for religious reasons but that does not affect scientists and their researches one whit.

314 posted on 06/26/2008 8:50:03 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman

Coyoteman,

I’m sorry but this is laughable. The debate is because the one or two decayed fossils do not point to anything clear.
The “ergaster” specimen still do not possess transitional traits, features of both homo and austral, the question is only what to make of the (primarily) skull shape.

That doesn’t negate the fact that while thousands of ape and human fossils have been found, no such numbers have been found of any transitional types, and the few and far between ones listed as “transitional” (none of which actually show transition, i.e. uniquely homo and austral. characteristics) are all highly inconclusive. This fact alone should show that there were no intermediary species and makes logic dictate that these few decayed skeletons are ape fossils that have decayed. There are fossils you wouldn’t be able to differentiate between a cat’s skull and a young weasel’s, but no evidence is around and no claim is made that weasels are evolved cats. Yet you present that as logic for an ape/human connection in spite of the fact that intermediaries simply don’t exist and the math doesn’t add up (thousands of primaries, according to your side, thousands of humans, and a bobbing inconclusive skeleton or tow in between to show intermediary steps that if existed, would be more plentiful than the primary apes, as they’d be their offspring).

As you would say, your religion of evolutionism may cause you to ignore these, but that shouldn’t stand in the way of science or reasoning.


316 posted on 07/04/2008 7:32:29 AM PDT by Yomin Postelnik (Vote the War Hero, Not the Incompetent Noob - Don't Sit Out - Our Security's At Stake)
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