[Hang'emAll]

There are records going back that far and in another article somewhere in Europe, I believe they are putting more money into researching the sunspots.

Now what gets me is if they really don’t have that much effect on the earth’s climate, why the hell is everyone counting them?

There is some good info on past history here

http://www.spaceweather.com/

[chaos_5]

What has me in fits is the fact that the sun spot trend and temperature trend fluctuations are inversely related with no lag. You can take the graph of one, flip it over, and lay it on top of the other and they fit nearly perfectly. However, if you look at CO2 it's only on very large time scales, and sometimes with hundreds of years of lag, that the graphs start to look similar. Often there are situations where CO2 is going up and temperatures are going down, and vis-versa. Despite the very obvious fact we are constantly bombarded with the message that “green house gas” is warming the planet.