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Growing Pains: Gardeners Experiment with Less Hardy Plants (Global Warming)
Madistan.com ^ | June 10, 2008 | Anita Weier

Posted on 06/11/2008 5:59:30 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The hardy arctic plants here are in pain due to late spring and lack of summer, second year.


21 posted on 06/11/2008 8:12:59 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto all beers)
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To: alwaysconservative
nope... not political
22 posted on 06/11/2008 8:14:15 AM PDT by xcamel (Being on the wrong track means the unintended consequences express train doesnt kill you going by)
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To: xcamel

Aw shucks! Are you saying that the politics of globull warming hasn’t invaded the gardens of honest, patriotic Republican gardeners yet?

Brr! This is the coldest spring we’ve had in a long time. We’re getting the rain and cool weather we should have had in April and early May. I’m not complaining about the rain, because it means I don’t have to water, and because we’re not facing those catastrophic floods that other areas are. But still, this “warming” claim is ridiculous.


23 posted on 06/11/2008 8:32:59 AM PDT by alwaysconservative (Battle: untying with your teeth the political knots that would not yield to the tongue. Bierce)
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To: Gabz

signing in from Georgia, where the temps area already hitting the high 90s and the drought is already intolerable. Not much grows well here, unless it is established. I don’t have any fruit trees, but my young maples and viburnium are suffering a bit.

Might as well forget about impatiens or begonias or other annuals. I’m trying out sedems, euphorbia in particular. Thank goodness for my daisies and daylillies.

And my hydrangeas, my favorite flower, are pitiful. They simply cannot bare the sweltering heat.


24 posted on 06/11/2008 9:34:09 AM PDT by hoe_cake (Reasonable minds can disagree.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
there was snow in Eastern Washington YESTERDAY .....and its supposed to get down to 38 tonight....

global warming?....maybe incidental....maybe transient.....but try telling my tomato plants that its June and they should be having buds by now.....

25 posted on 06/11/2008 10:45:37 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’m staying in z6b even though winter is starting later in NJ with the ground not freezing until Jan. 1 now, and our low temps no worse than 5-10 deg. F most years (supposedly z7).

What I think separates z6 from z7 is the ground stays frozen in z6 and it doesn’t in z7, not more than the top couple inches for a few days, whereas mine is frozen deep for three months. Air temp is not so relevant.

And when your ground that freezes has a whole lot of clay in it, you can’t push zones too far.

I still lift cannas, salvias, agastaches, brugmansia, and rosemary and I’ve lost a lot that is hardy even to z5 in Western states. I’ve lost more z7 stuff than I can count, even with the best drainage I can provide and mulching.

My zone-pushing abstinence pledge was broken by a Hamelia patens (firebush) from Lowe’s. Why are they tempting me so far up north? It was for the hummingbirds you know.

Basically I pledge to make and break my pledge every year. :)


26 posted on 06/11/2008 1:43:09 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The temperature has risen 1/10th of a degree<<<<

See, there is proof of the global warming.........[said with a laugh].

The world must have tilted, as in NW Arizona, I am still having cool days and cold nights, which is all wrong for the normal.

Interesting thread, I will link it on the survival thread...


27 posted on 06/11/2008 3:24:37 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: Gabz

LOL, yes it is interesting and I have put a link up for it.

The lady in Oregon complains of the warming, but my sister in the Seattle area, complains of the late snow.


28 posted on 06/11/2008 3:27:30 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I'm not well-known enough yet to be in the fight, LOL!

Don't worry.

We will be on your side when you are.

:-)

29 posted on 06/11/2008 3:29:39 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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Diana, you probably already know, but fr those of you who don’t google “The year without a summer” It’s a real eye opener.


30 posted on 06/11/2008 5:05:09 PM PDT by gardengirl
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You wouldn’t believe the stuff I’m seeing this spring with this wet, cool weather!

Anthracnose and gall on Maple trees. NOTHING bothers Maple trees.

And bug damage beyond belief.

I’m selling lots of chemicals and organic solutions, though. That’s always good for our Bottom Line. :)


31 posted on 06/11/2008 7:03:29 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Oh, Brother. I was JUST kidding you!

I would’ve thought that a Fig Farmer would have a thicker skin!

See? I did it again. :)


32 posted on 06/11/2008 7:04:45 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
My comprehension of "global warming" is so different from the cliche'd broadly casted version. I think maybe some folks couldn't come up with a more politically expedient "useful" term, ipso, "global warming".

The polar axis is regular in moving from past true.. and it moves incrementally. It has recently found a position. And because of this North Carolinians will now be able to grow orchards the like of which they've never before been able. And because of this all kinds of areas around the world should experiment with what they can grow, and might reduce crops (or move those north/south).

When I was kid in the San Francisco Bay Area -- every summer was predictably HOT. The years leading up to my move out South/east, I was actually wearing sweats at times during summer in the SF Bay Area. Changes in weather? Yep, I've seen 'em during my lifetime. Microclimates? I love 'em. But! This also means extremes in weather will happen in spurts until the entire cycle adjusts to new "true". It's not a calamity. It means to be aware, and make adjustments accordingly. It's evolution just evolving, again, and here are the so-called Most Earthy of the Earthies, the Liberals, screaming like chickens with their heads cut off, over natural rythyms of the Earth.

And tragically, must be said, until that synthesization occurs, there will be dramatic earth/weather events. We don't know enough about natural rythems to predict how this change will specific effect areas or microclimates; so much is contingent upon winds, mountains, rivers, tectonic plates, magma to surface, etc.

The article is quite right, tho - to experiment and see what will or may grow under these newer "terms". And to be aware this will also bring about newer insects, newer types of allergies, etc.

Liberals find evolution SCARY!

33 posted on 06/12/2008 4:41:36 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; IrishCatholic; Normandy; Delacon; TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; CygnusXI; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

34 posted on 06/15/2008 9:10:08 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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