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To: nmh
I am not impressed with your armature effort.

If you have truly studied this field for over 25 years, you've wasted your time and come up short.

That is professional effort, not "armature" effort.

Most people, even ignorant people would acknowledge that there have been extreme weather changes in the past - the ice age, shells from the ocean where it is now a desert and on and on it goes. You don't take ANY of this into account and why you can't sell me junk science.

Can you show me how changes in weather affect radiocarbon dating? Will they alter the decay constant, or what? What about sea shells in deserts? And how do you know what we do and do not take into consideration?

I don't believe you know anything about this. You just read some passages on a creationist website and they sounded good to you so you pasted them here.

Your responses all seem to be based on creationist websites. And they have no first-hand knowledge of the subject either -- they just know that somehow radiocarbon dating doesn't support their religious beliefs.

Radioactive dating techniques ‘prove’ that the earth is billions of years old, say evolutionists. However, these techniques are based upon several assumptions, including that rates of radioactive decay have always been CONSTANT. Now new research has shown that decay rates can VARY according to the chemical environment of the material being tested.

While the relatively small variation (1.5%) observed so far is unlikely to persuade ‘old-earthers’ to adopt a biblical time-line, the discovery that radioactive dating ‘can no longer be called precisely “clocklike”’ prompted the journal Science to comment, ‘Certainty, it seems, is on the wane.’

Earth and Planetary Science Letters 171, 1999, pp. 235–328. Science, October 29, 1999, pp. 882–883.

You posted that already, and I already responded to it.

You miss the major point. So again, I hear about all this work you supposedly do and still you can't admit you're wrong. The more you write, the less truthful you are appearing ... You might want to quit and try to maintain some semblance of credibility ... .

Did you read any of the links I posted earlier? I'll post them again in case you missed them:

ReligiousTolerance.org Carbon-14 Dating (C-14): Beliefs of New-Earth Creationists

Radiometric Dating: A Christian Perspective by Dr. Roger C. Wiens.

This site, BiblicalChronologist.org has a series of good articles on radiocarbon dating.

Tree Ring and C14 Dating

Radiocarbon WEB-info Radiocarbon Laboratory, University of Waikato, New Zealand.

Radiocarbon -- full text of issues, 1959-2003.

All of the objections you have raised are discussed in the first two articles. You really should take a look.

83 posted on 05/28/2008 3:19:23 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman
There is no way in the world that you are a “professional” in this field. Gimme a break!

No, you have not addressed this:

Radioactive dating techniques ‘prove’ that the earth is billions of years old, say evolutionists. However, these techniques are based upon several assumptions, including that rates of radioactive decay have always been CONSTANT. Now new research has shown that decay rates can VARY according to the chemical environment of the material being tested.

While the relatively small variation (1.5%) observed so far is unlikely to persuade ‘old-earthers’ to adopt a biblical time-line, the discovery that radioactive dating ‘can no longer be called precisely “clocklike”’ prompted the journal Science to comment, ‘Certainty, it seems, is on the wane.’

Earth and Planetary Science Letters 171, 1999,
pp. 235–328. Science, October 29, 1999, pp. 882–883.

You have also skipped over how the eye “evolved” or the heart “evolved”.

I skip left wing like like “religious tolerance”. It's more pseudo science that is based on feelings, not facts.

If you can't figure out how weather and climate affect carbon dating and where there are deserts today, that have shells in it, I rest my case in being totally convinced that you are not as learned as you would like others to believe. THIS is common knowledge. Make that your next assignment, in this hobby of yours, what deserts have shells buried in the sand. Pretend the ice age never happened as well .... .

Truly, you need to quit while others may still take you seriously.

84 posted on 05/28/2008 3:32:43 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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