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To: webstersII
After all, no one can ascertain what happened based on forensic evidence anyway.

Forensics with less conclusive evidence have sent criminals to the gas chamber. My problem with evolution denyers is that they apply different standards of proof to Evolution than they do to every other scientific theory. Try explaining the branching of the genomes of various animals without evolution and without saying, "because the Bible says so".

105 posted on 05/31/2008 7:04:19 PM PDT by Soliton
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To: Soliton

“Forensics with less conclusive evidence have sent criminals to the gas chamber. “

Absolutely. But that still doesn’t mean that forensics, which is the study of one-time past events, is equivalent to the scientific method, which postulates that a theory can be tested repeatedly.

Juries deliberate on the basis of “beyond a reasonable doubt”. They can’t possibly say exactly what happened because one-time events can’t be tested repeatedly. A jury ruling is based on belief. Do you want to relegate science to just a strong belief on the part of a group of scientists? That’s a really low standard.

‘Try explaining the branching of the genomes of various animals without evolution and without saying, “because the Bible says so”.’

I don’t understand your point here. It is possible we will never be able to explain — in a true scientific sense — ‘the branching of the genomes of various animals’. At least until some brilliant physicist builds a time machine.

I still don’t understand the emotional component of this argument for scientists. There is no repeatable test under controlled conditions which can test and falsify the TOE but many absolutely insist that they know this is how it happened. For example, what is a transitional form? It seems obvious that a transitional form must be both similar and dis-similar from the previous form. What is the minimum change or difference required to distinguish a transitional form? How can one set up an experiment and a control group to determine the minimum difference required to say one item is a transitional and another is not? No one can even establish a basis for such things but many scientists have declared it is ‘just so’.

The TOE should be called ‘Science Lite’ because it is definitely a lightweight when it comes to following the scientific method. Of course, if it really is just forensics, then it should be stated as such and then the Crevo arguments will probably die away pretty quickly.


106 posted on 06/01/2008 5:41:55 AM PDT by webstersII
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