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To: atlaw
I believe "dabbled" is the operative word here. You obviously want someone to spoon feed you, and it is equally obvious that your response to anything presented will be either "not enough" or "too much -- make it simpler." Educate yourself. Nobody really wants to play games with an adult in a high-chair.

Okay, okay, enough empty insults :-)

Seriously, getting an intuitive grasp of other sciences was not as difficult as this. But I digress.

There is at least one valid situation where a person is perfectly justified in complaining about being given all or nothing -- and that is when they are indeed being given all or nothing.

The claim has been made that there are mountains of evidence, that it's plainly clear, or the like.

But I think maybe it's only clear to those who have studied it for hundreds of hours. Why not just say "Here. Jesse, go read this in-depth article and then you'll be able to see the evidence." Is it because I'd have to read a couple hundred in-depth articles? well then just say so! Just tell me that I won't be able to see the evidence without reading thousands of articles, if such is the case.

But after a while of not hearing that I gotta devote my life to it, and after a while of not being directed to one good article that will do it for me, it is natural and proper of me to suspect that nobody knows of these mountains of clear evidence.

How come it has to be 93,000 or nothing? If any one of those would do it, just say so and I'll go pick one!

(I'm no genius to be sure -- but by now I've seen enough to know that if I just pick one you'll say it was the wrong one.)

Thanks,

-Jesse

980 posted on 04/18/2008 6:57:46 PM PDT by mrjesse (Could it be true? Imagine, being forgiven, and having a cause, greater then yourself, to live for!)
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To: mrjesse
How come it has to be 93,000 or nothing? If any one of those would do it, just say so and I'll go pick one!

I see you are getting the '93,000 links and citations' treatment. I had to laugh at your misfortune, and I apologize. I've been on the receiving end of the '93,000 links and citations' treatment many times. Of course it would be sufficient to cite just one good article, but alas that is not how the darwinian mind works.

Anyway, I recommend this short 1882 booklet by an obscure writer called Frances Morris: All the Articles of the Darwin Faith. If you have already read Darwin's Origin of Species and Descent of Man (highly recommended), you will no doubt immediately see that this is by no means a parody of Darwin, but rather a completely accurate nutshell summary of the Darwinian scientific process, it's methods of reasoning, and it's mind-games. It's even funnier if, after you read Morris's essay, you try reading Darwin again.

984 posted on 04/19/2008 8:43:01 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (see FR homepage for Euvolution v0.3)
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To: mrjesse
How come it has to be 93,000 or nothing?

It doesn't. There's a search engine in that archive. There are links to supplemental materials in that archive. There's your library, other electronic archives, numerous other links and electronically available publications, books and texts at your local bookstore, books and texts available through Amazon and other web-based booksellers, and subscription and non-subscription periodicals. Exercise your research skills, which appear to have atrophied. Go forth. Learn. And stop whining.

988 posted on 04/21/2008 3:28:06 PM PDT by atlaw
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