[[Hitching cites this book elsewhere in “The Neck of the Giraffe”, but not in reference to this particular assertion. But this must have been Hitching’s source,]]
And
[[Could this be the essence of Rimmer’s claim? Not that fossils of Hyracotherium had been found in the same geological layers as Equus, but simply that there were fossils of Equus?]]
**Here Barber reads the mind of Rimmer- telling us what the deceased man was thinking and ‘Really meant to say’ (which incidently was NEVER mentioend by Rimmer at all)- very impressive Barber- you’ve missed your calling- you should have been a psychic mindreader of deceased people- not a writer on TO**
and
[[but even though it seems to be the basis for Rimmer’s outline of horse evolution, it makes no reference to either Equus nevadensis and Equus occidentalis.]] **Even htough it SEEMS? Barber? Is it or isn’t it? Forget the ‘it seems’ and ‘I thinks’ - either you have the verifiable facts or not- which is it?
[[And this would seem to be all the examples of Equus nevadensis that are available.]] **Hmmmm- you SEEM to use hte word SEEM a lot Barber- if you’re goign to attack someone’s credibility- how abotu writing facts next time instead of pure speculations and assumptions, eh? Your credibility is quickly shrinking here sir.**
[[ and so it would seem that my first guess about Rimmer’s claim was correct.]] **And it would SEEM that you used findings that SEEMED to fit to base your validating you GUESS about Rimmer on- Yup- this is gettign to be quite hte authoritive piece of investigation here Barber!**
[[But Rimmer was unaware that this shows nothing of the kind, and instead here veals a profound misunderstanding of geology.]] **Barber bases this latest accusation on the fact that ‘there [MAY] be nothing about the teeth that warrants them being placed in a separate species [emphasis mine]- there wasn’t even consensus at the time apparently, but Barber, being the seer into past events that he is, is able to inform his readers with a definitive statement, that Rimmer had a “PROFOUND” misunderstanding abotu geology**
[[But it is now over 65 years since Rimmer wrote these words, and in that time the techniques of scientific investigation have grown in ways unimagined in Rimmer’s day.]]
Yes, they have grown in such a way as to now be able to wave hte hand and make all refuting Macroevolution damaging evidence quetly dissappear so that noone ever questions the validity of the hypothesis
And htere you have it folks- the difinitive, authoritive debunking of modern horse bones found amoung ‘ancient’ rock badger bones- all is well again (IF you find “IT SEEMS” solid enough evidence to work off of- it SEEMS Barber certainly does so, and would like everyoen else to as well)
Sorry- but for reasons such as these, and many many more as laid out on Trueorigins site- I wouldn’t trust TO as far as I could throw it!
Look, this all started because you made a claim about horse fossils. All this bluster about TalkOrigins is just a distraction from the fact that you apparently can’t back it up. They at least made an effort to find out the basis for the claim—you haven’t even bothered to do that. I’m not going to get sidetracked into a discussion of TO’s credibility, because it’s not relevant. If you come back with an alternate source that can be checked, I’ll look at it. Otherwise, I’m done with this thread.