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To: Coyoteman; metmom
A subset of reality? That subset called science....You can have all of that nonsense and you're welcome to it.

I'm more willing than you are to entertain the idea that there are real things that science can't (at least not yet) measure that aren't all nonsense. The problem is, everyone insists that their idea of what that is is the right one, but since it can't be measured, there's no way for them to demonstrate it. Letting them argue amongst themselves over who's right, and meanwhile coming to one's own personal conclusion about it, is mostly harmless sport. It's when they start insisting that the stuff that science can measure should be ignored that it stops being harmless.

360 posted on 04/01/2008 7:09:10 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical; Coyoteman
It's when they start insisting that the stuff that science can measure should be ignored that it stops being harmless.

That's presuming that what science has measured is correct.

And all it means is that science has measured it.

For a long time after electricity was discovered and even put to use, people didn't know what it was. Would that not have been put in the category of the supernatural by some? Then it would have been not investigated and found out what it really was.

That's the danger of categorizing stuff and writing stuff off just because RIGHT NOW, we don't understand it, or know how to test for it.

Sneering at things we don't understand is no way to learn about them. Miracles and healings happen, they are real and documented. They are not mythology or fairy tales. But we'll never learn about them if they're simply written off as *supernatural* just because they don't fit in someone's belief system, or nice, little box.

Folklore has provided us with remedies for diseases; like foxglove for dropsy. Should we write off the discovery of new medicines for diseases just because it starts as folklore, or old wives tales? They knew what worked, even if they didn't understand it.

What about the occult surgeries and healings that are practiced in some South American countries. Those things happen and people are cured by these witch doctors. It's real. Just because we can't explain it yet, doesn't mean it's not. But let's ignore it because it's *superstitious*....

That's no way to learn anything new.

363 posted on 04/01/2008 7:28:24 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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